Titles and Race Cars

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Terrance Smith

How do you title a vehicle without a VIN?

I know that in NY for sure,you bring the car with documentation.In the case of this car if it says the car was a factory racecar,delivered with no vin #,and the paperwork backs that up,the state will issue a vin #.You probably wont be able to register it though for pass. car use.But for legal ownership I think they might go for that.All Mike has to do is call DMV
main headquarters for a clarification.

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Obviously every state is different, here in Ohio, its not to difficult to get a title for a race car assuming you have proper documentation, as in a body in white car or something strip only, I have a friend that got a title to a dragster here in Ohio...why because he could, and he was taking another car down for inspection. They dont inspect to see that you are "street legal" rather that you have MSO's (manufacturers stated origin docs or something like it) and/or reciepts (in Ohio they must be notarized for main components, engine etc if they are from a personal source)

We joke you can get a title for anything here "IF" you know how and where to play the right game.

We used to and I was thinking of doing it again, getting a whole bunch of "Grey Market" 2 stroke street bikes from Japan brought over as I can get them titled here, a bike I pay 1200 for used over there brings upwards of 5k titled here.

The trick is also to do it somewhere rural (in my experience) as people dont like to show they dont know what the hell they are looking at or doing., and there it has always seemed painless. The HWP in the bigger areas seems to be all punchy like youre trying to pull a fast one...the whole, Im a statie, but I am going to act like Im inspector clousea.

When the Challenger DP is all together we plan to get a title for it. Why ? Because we can

The DMV in Ohio has everything required on their website, its a strange list, many big ticket items, engine etc, but there are strange things they require paperwork for.

If youre SURE its Kosher, like a Bike I just got my stepdad bought new and lost the title to some 40 years ago in P.A. , he only rode the bike 70 miles and fell over on it , never rode again, Its a no brainer as I am 100% sure its legit. but as others have said , if its "iffy" well youve got to be ready to take a total loss if something comes up as "stolen" and is on their list they take the whole shabang.

Then again you can always buy a title and a vin plate.....thats the easiest route, I have a source here in Ohio they used to own a wrecking yard Kept all the titles and tags from cars. This may or may not be legal depending on where you live. But for $200 or so hey.....its easy .....

Originally Posted by Michael Compton

My car did not have a title when I got it. All I had was a bill of sale. I had a buddy who was a lawyer get a court ordered title. I then took all of the paperwork to the state highway patrol who searched the car to try and find some sort of vin or identification number. Since they could not find anything (I told them they were wasting their time) they signed off on the paperwork and sent me on my way. I had to go back about 3 weeks later for them to pop rivet on a vin # assigned by the state. Then I registered it with the DMV as an off road/race car and only pay minimal personal property taxes every year. No tags, licenses or anything.

[Bob Verwold]

Originally Posted by drooze

Then again you can always buy a title and a vin plate.....thats the easiest route, I have a source here in Ohio they used to own a wrecking yard Kept all the titles and tags from cars. This may or may not be legal depending on where you live. But for $200 or so hey.....its easy .....

Don't know what part of Ohio you live in, but where I live that's just about the fastest way I know of to end up in JAIL........

[Gary Smith]

I have titles on both. Of course Dad & I are original owners so it has made it easy LOL.

[Ed Fernandez]

Mike is a resident of Pa so he has to call PADMV.End of story.

[cicero819]

Just to let everyone know that you must have proof of ownership while traveling trough any state, Pro stock and funny car have their State Registration with them at all time. I was stop in 1990 with a 1969 Chevelle (from a known Racer) in New-York State, the Trooper impounded the car, trailer, and tow vehicle until we came up with the car ownership. Well this started a whole new problem for me, the car had change ownership six times before I got it. I had a Notarize bill of sale with unfit for road use New-York certification but nobody had checked if it was stolen(thank God it wasn't) but it still took over a month to get my property and I had to pay the storing fees. There was an article not too long ago on Class Racer about a gentleman who never stopped looking for his fathers Stolen Road Runner(it was a 440-6 pack with rare options) he finally located it and with the aid of the FBI was able to get the car back from a Reputable(so-call expert) Antique car dealer who had never changed the ownership knowing that many valuable car owners also have never changed their ownership fearing that their pride and joy might not be so legal after all. Take it from me you need your official ownership, like the old commercial from American Express "don't leave home without it"/

[Billy Nees]

On the subject of titles (and racecars).
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=424951