Sponsorship Advice

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Good points and I will take some of them to heart, I look at things different......its that simple, I EXPECT Nothing from someone, anything is a bonus.

Your driver clearly doesn't know crap about sportsman racing either or you would have all these silly little questions answered for you allready. If that is the case then I would say that you could learn to drive just as good as him in the same amount of time. But then you wouldn't have all these sponsors throwing themselves at a name on the side of the car, so I would stick with your plan. I would also lock in that sponsor for as long as you possibly could, but what do I know, I'm to stupid to spend 4 hours on the phone looking for one. I'm also not a former pro stock world champ, so for me to get a sponsor requires winning.

He does and we have chosen to take some of his advice, his job is on the track, MINE is in the office and shop. He is not of a personality type where he would throw things at us and expect us to do them, he knows what his strenths are and chooses to focus on those. He has good points, but in all honesty I can say he hasnt dealt with sponsors of these type before, they are from a different "arena" as it were and while "english" may be their primary language in the case of 1 , words like "wonky" arent in his vocabluary, I have dealt with people my whole life from that country and culture. BUT on this I am flying blind as its not a situation Ive been faced with before.....No problem is unique or only in my court, someone else has had this issue before and found what either works or dosent work and may or may not be willing to share it, thats what I was looking for.

YOU POST WAY TO MUCH. I just clicked that little search button on the top of the page and pluged in Trans Cooler.. What do you know. 6 Threads totally devoted to what cooler is recomended for what application. Why revive one of those threads when you can wright a paragraph asking the same question... right?

Probably that wont change, I come from a life spent communicating via computer in programming, fourms have been the #1 way to share that knowledge for some 10 years, Im used to it....and its effective.

So I can honestly say no matter how much people tell me to shut up as long as my questions are answered and goals are met , It will to your chagrin continue.

I also hadnt made a decision and wanted to hear pros and cons on the cooler, as well as a lot of PM's I made my decision, its actually a hybrid decision, because of dyno tuning and other I have mounted one above the trans crossmember, short lines, full flow. I can if need be and after dyno testing eliminate it should I choose to without worrying about associated plumbing, I would NOT have found the answer I was looking for without the guidance I was looking for here. The extra capacity even though its only a quart will be adequate to keep it a few degrees cooler for a few seconds more, and it as cheap, simple and what I see as a good solution, that may change but for now this is it.

I wouldnt have come to this solution without the knowledge and pros an cons of the approaches listed.




you don't ask people with a wealth of knowledge to just give you info without feeling as though you have earned it in some way. That seems to be a problem with people my age more than just you, so I guess I can't blame you for that. I also don't know why people would just give you hard earned info that will help you compete against them other than the fact that the majority of sportsman racers are just plain nice.

Ill agree with all of that, I dont know why they do either, but its appreciated, sincerly appreciated. AND Its 2 ways, although many choose to message direct, I am an OPEN BOOK on everything except cam and other engine internals that will make us competitive against other DP cars, I will still however share my OPINIONS if asked and point someone in that direction IF it has proved effective, I just wont give em my grind......they are the only direct competition in terms of speed in A I see, AA whole different landscape, the rest is all driver and theyve got as good or better shot than that of beating us by driving, so I dont see the competition direction.

I have as many here could if they cared to shared anything and everything related to DP cars that can assist them or their decision, and eventually they me....I gave first and NEVER expected anything in return, I post a daily blog as a way for them to keep abreast of things weve found and encoutered, here isnt the place as its too DP specific.The kindness was done to me on this forum by Mr M as I call him as hes a private individual and DP owner, He knows his **** and shares it freely, he is now far from the only one.

I have been lambasted by other DP Owners, a few for giving out TOO Much info ? Not mind you info they gave me, but rather things I learned on my OWN with these cars.....Well it may negativley affect them but for us and those in our "Drag Pak Confederation" it has been helpful, for the rest there is little yet I can give sound advice on that has been tested, some things like rotational mass against centerlines of motion I can, those were hard earned and are freely shared.

Once again, I would find someone who knows what they are doing, earn thier trust, and learn all you can from them. I am forever in debt to the people who taught me what I know, and thats what this CLASS racing is all about. Not bringing in a brand new car with a major sponsor and asking everyone in an open forum to tell you how to race it. I guess we think a little different though?

Im not asking them to tell us how to race it, in some cases when Im doing computer work its easier to ask here than pick up the phone to some of the same people I would be calling anyway. They are here, and post here, and PM here....so their schedules allow that as does mine.

But I appreecate all honest suggestions and digest them all.....just because I dont choose one dosent mean it wasnt instrumental in making my decision.

I choose to look and take all perspectives serious analyzye the results and origin of the decision see why they made them and tailor them to fit our needs. Its the process of learning.

BTW, the only people who will be buying your ecu program are people building new cars, unless it will make it more easy to predict a dial, or picks up a few hundreds of et. If you have ever been to a race you will see that their are not as many new cars or FI cars as you may think. So make sure you lock that sponsor in.

That is also 100% correct and insightful, the only ones who will later "change" to it are people who see it work well in competition, and as well as you pointed out newer FI cars, and Detroit isnt making anything BUT now.....hence the company thats sponosring us is hitting an untapped market in a growing area with the only real competition coming from Motec, BS3, FAST and DFI, lesser from people with other systems....good marketing on their part and something they asked to be able to participate in. I was more than willing to oblige, but did so a bit haphazzardly without thinking of long term issues.

And yes certianly we HOPE it will be capable of allowing a couple
hundreths, its resolution and processing speed are faster than anything out there, that lead to more accurate Maps and tables and response.

BUT Its one thing to say it another to SHOW it, and for that reason its kept "In the Hat" until after our Dyno and Track testing, itll be pretty hard to hide after that with their name emblazoned all over the car.

Thanks for your advice, and contrary to your thought it did not fall on "deaf ears" but for reasons you havent seen first hand and from our own expereinces here it is a logical approach for us to seek the assistance here and that will continue, just because I dont agree with it all dosent mean I didnt listen (that would be my X wifes MO)