C-11 Cost?

B Aceves · 03-25-2010, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey Miles

You should look into Sunoco purple, it's about half of C-11. I paid $6.99 at a pump and took it to fuel check it passed with no problem.

Casey Miles
248H

X 2 on the Sunoco purple, NHRA would never allow pump gas due to sponsor and money

Bob Aceves
746 E/SA

Lew Silverman · 03-25-2010, 09:50 AM

Page 68 and 69 of the NHRA Accepted Products List has all of the racing fuels listed. Sunoco Standard (purple) is there, along with VP C-11. Of course you'd have to bring your own drum!

Greg Hill · 03-25-2010, 04:50 PM

Last week I dynoed c-11 vs. Sunoco Purple. C11 was 3 hp better on average. A drum of Sunoco is $325 and C11 is about $12 per gallon. About twice the price. My air fuel mixture was a little richer with the sunoco so maybe if I leaned it out a little it would have been as good as c-11.

mopar jeff · 03-25-2010, 05:45 PM

I just paid $574, all fees included for a 54 gallon drum.

Phillip marvetz · 03-26-2010, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mopar jeff

I just paid $574, all fees included for a 54 gallon drum.

Well that is at least $100 less than jobber cost here. I guess I'm getting the shaft. Pacific raceways has sunoco at the pump but I'm not sure what they have for options. I guess I'll be taking an empty drum with me next time I head down there.

P.S Hey Sean I figured out how to use the quote finally. Now I'm as cool as you.......

Greg Hill · 03-26-2010, 07:21 AM

Bob , all I did was swap gas. I remember when I started using c-11 I richened up my carb. I really think if I had taken the time to lean my carb up just a little there would probably of been little or no difference. This is a motor that is about 10.5 to 1.

Casey Miles · 03-26-2010, 07:43 AM

Unless you're on the cutting edge and trying to set a record or something of that nature, why spend double the money on C-11 when a $5.00 shoe polish takes up the slack?
I know that some of you guys are going to say that you need all the power you can get when it comes to class racing. My arguement is that NHRA has settled most classes by ignoring the correct factoring of car and engine combinations and gas wouldn't help you.

Casey Miles
248H

B Aceves · 03-26-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg Hill

Bob , all I did was swap gas. I remember when I started using c-11 I richened up my carb. I really think if I had taken the time to lean my carb up just a little there would probably of been little or no difference. This is a motor that is about 10.5 to 1.

Thx for the info....Just switching fuels and seeing a diference in mixture is good
info to have thx. Bob

mopar jeff · 03-26-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz

Well that is at least $100 less than jobber cost here. I guess I'm getting the shaft. Pacific raceways has sunoco at the pump but I'm not sure what they have for options. I guess I'll be taking an empty drum with me next time I head down there.

P.S Hey Sean I figured out how to use the quote finally. Now I'm as cool as you.......

I got it at Downs Fuels in Riverside.

Casey Miles · 03-26-2010, 02:29 PM

The evaporation rate is what causes the carb to be riched or leaned. You can look up the spec's of the fuels on the net.
I spoke to the Sunoco people at the PRI show in Orlando, and they told me that the gas can be stored for up to 2 years and it will still pass as long as it's in the correct container.

Casey Miles
248H

03-25-2010, 09:50 AM	#2
Lew Silverman VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,435 Likes: 371 Liked 129 Times in 59 Posts	Re: C-11 Cost? Page 68 and 69 of the NHRA Accepted Products List has all of the racing fuels listed. Sunoco Standard (purple) is there, along with VP C-11. Of course you'd have to bring your own drum! __________________ Lew Silverman #2070 "The Wagon Master" N/SA

03-25-2010, 04:50 PM	#3
Greg Hill VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisville , KY Posts: 1,995 Likes: 68 Liked 279 Times in 68 Posts	Re: C-11 Cost? Last week I dynoed c-11 vs. Sunoco Purple. C11 was 3 hp better on average. A drum of Sunoco is $325 and C11 is about $12 per gallon. About twice the price. My air fuel mixture was a little richer with the sunoco so maybe if I leaned it out a little it would have been as good as c-11. __________________ Greg Hill 4171 STK

03-25-2010, 05:45 PM	#4
mopar jeff Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 219 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: C-11 Cost? I just paid $574, all fees included for a 54 gallon drum. __________________ Jeff Interlicchia 7077 D/SA 1998 Pontiac Firebird LT1 J707 E/T 1966 Dodge Coronet 500

03-26-2010, 07:21 AM	#6
Greg Hill VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisville , KY Posts: 1,995 Likes: 68 Liked 279 Times in 68 Posts	Re: C-11 Cost? Bob , all I did was swap gas. I remember when I started using c-11 I richened up my carb. I really think if I had taken the time to lean my carb up just a little there would probably of been little or no difference. This is a motor that is about 10.5 to 1. __________________ Greg Hill 4171 STK

03-26-2010, 07:43 AM	#7
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 705 Likes: 128 Liked 501 Times in 91 Posts	Re: C-11 Cost? Unless you're on the cutting edge and trying to set a record or something of that nature, why spend double the money on C-11 when a $5.00 shoe polish takes up the slack? I know that some of you guys are going to say that you need all the power you can get when it comes to class racing. My arguement is that NHRA has settled most classes by ignoring the correct factoring of car and engine combinations and gas wouldn't help you. Casey Miles 248H

03-26-2010, 02:29 PM	#10
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 705 Likes: 128 Liked 501 Times in 91 Posts	Re: C-11 Cost? The evaporation rate is what causes the carb to be riched or leaned. You can look up the spec's of the fuels on the net. I spoke to the Sunoco people at the PRI show in Orlando, and they told me that the gas can be stored for up to 2 years and it will still pass as long as it's in the correct container. Casey Miles 248H