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Old 05-10-2010, 06:24 AM   #1
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Isnt it about time for ALL of these driver aids to be outlawed in stock AND S/S? Air shifters, 2 steps, trans brakes, blinders, pressure switches, all make it easy to cheat. Isnt it about time to put the driver back into the equasion?
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Old 05-10-2010, 06:30 AM   #2
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Jim,
If you do this 'FOR FUN" then why worry about it. If you are not worried about it then why start this post.
If you are worried about it then talk to the tech guys at the next event.

I trid the 2-step on my wagon once and it was activated by the brake light switch under the dash.

Never raced with it though. Either the switch or me was very inconsistent but it never worked.
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Old 05-10-2010, 06:39 AM   #3
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I have no problem with my competition using a brake-pedal button activated 2-step... *because* they are inherently inconsistent! In any case, it's still just one more thing you've added to the system that can screw up. I've witnessed several important races lost due to 2-step issues. I'll keep foot'n it, thanks. If you "have" to use a 2-step, the only way to do it is with a brake pressure switch. I think Folk sells them.

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Old 05-10-2010, 07:16 AM   #4
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Your not going to like this but all of these driver aids are for people who cant drive a nail with a hammer. Michael Beard has it right and several others I know. Before all of this crap came into existence you had to know how to drive to go rounds. It brought the good drivers to the top of the food chain. These are the ones who understood the timming system and how it worked. They studied the track and new how to play the finish line. Gee's some of you guys/gals cant even shift gears on a run without help.

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Old 05-10-2010, 07:23 AM   #5
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X Tech, sounds alot like pure stock to me. Pat
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I think a lot of folks look at NOT having driver aids like 2-steps, blinders, automated shifters, etc. as a disadvantage. On the surface, that might seem to make sense, but to me, it's like training wheels on a bike. There's no doubt that training wheels make it easier to ride a bike, and maybe you even need them for a time. But it's a bandaid, in my opinion. By taking the training wheels off, you may struggle a little bit at first, but in the long run, you're going to be MUCH better. I feel there are advantages to NOT having driver aids. You will be more focused, more adaptable, and there are strategic advantages as well (if you see me at the track, feel free to ask). Challenge yourself to be better than you are.

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Old 05-10-2010, 10:30 AM   #7
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[QUOTE=X-TECH MAN;186580]Your not going to like this but all of these driver aids are for people who cant drive a nail with a hammer. QUOTE]


A nail gun drives nails very nicely. You never hit your thumb, or miss the nail and hit the wood and damage it..........


Ask a carpenter if he would rather use a hammer or the proper nailgun.....

I am in the process of doing a lot of home rennovation work and am still working in the dark ages with a hammer.......


PS......I was always a footbreaker in Stock and also in bracket racing long after delay boxes and 2 steps were in use........


Very few people have the ability of someone like Michael Beard.......

I don't think it is good to have just a few people dominate....
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Your not going to like this but all of these driver aids are for people who cant drive a nail with a hammer. QUOTE]


A nail gun drives nails very nicely. You never hit your thumb, or miss the nail and hit the wood and damage it..........


Ask a carpenter if he would rather use a hammer or the proper nailgun.....

I am in the process of doing a lot of home rennovation work and am still working in the dark ages with a hammer.......


PS......I was always a footbreaker in Stock and also in bracket racing long after delay boxes and 2 steps were in use........


Very few people have the ability of someone like Michael Beard.......

I don't think it is good to have just a few people dominate....
Most dont study HOW to race. They just throw money at the car. Guys like Michael Beard and the late Bob Maxey (yeah a bracket racer) of the "Clinton Shaker" fame and many more like the late Steve Taylor from N. Carolina learn and work hard at what it takes to win in handicap style racing. They dont rely on band aids.
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Old 05-10-2010, 11:13 AM   #9
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Terry....maybe I'm wrong but as I recall Bob Maxey might have had a delay box before they were common......Maybe it was just the typical rumors made up about people that won to much.......He won a lot.....
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Most dont study HOW to race. They just throw money at the car. Guys like Michael Beard and the late Bob Maxey (yeah a bracket racer) of the "Clinton Shaker" fame and many more like the late Steve Taylor from N. Carolina learn and work hard at what it takes to win in handicap style racing. They dont rely on band aids.

wow I did not know you knew what every racer knows about racing LOL . Your the man
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