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Old 06-30-2010, 08:11 AM   #10
Chris "drooze" Wertman
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Default Re: Drooze has left the..........

I do appreciate the advice Adger, and in truth it is exactly what we did with the Mega Maniac, we started with all established items.

Even on the header side we ordered the TTI's 2 steps that everyone else was running, why because they were a known quantity.

Timing dictated the 3 steps however because delivery of the 2 steps wasnt until after we were trackside, plus being mild stell afforded us the opportunity to change them more easily.

In our scenario, the 3 steps are working better, why ? Cam profile, head flow, I dont know and havent had time to disect why.

I couldnt agree more, Dyno's are in my opinion useless except for a baseline, they do not replicate the exact conditions of accell , decel, airflow, etc. I much to our tuner chagrin, said no more Dyno, trackside, the last tune that I wrote propelled us to a 10.59, and was rough at best.

I agree Adger, it may not sound like I do but I do, I ALWAYS start with a KNOWN quantity , its part of the Scientific Method, its a control and its required. From there, we will "play" but I will have a basline to go from.

Thank you Adger, and others for your concern, our INITIAL steps , even on the DP are exactly as you said, staret with something known. From there we will diverge, I guess I havent communicated that well, and thats my fault, the DP , except headers well, its pretty much like all the others.......Now it will be changed , we learned what works and what can be improved upon, in that arena unfortunatley there have been few examples to follow early, Irv Johns, Doug Duell....well that been about it. Now its interesting to see we are having people follow things WE did, several teams.....all knowledge is bite sized pieces as it were, and Were hungry.


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Originally Posted by Adger Smith View Post
Drooze I saw in your post about Ex.. well I hate to tell you, but through testing some of the fast Comp cars have found a 2 step header keeps the velocity up better than the 3 step and is faster/quicker down track. What works best in theory & on a dyno, doesn't always work best in the real world.
I know you are young and have time to waste trying to re-invent the wheel.
Please do what Larry suggested. Study tried and true (already proved) ways of doing things and then after knowing how and why something works, refine and improve the application. As said in another post you aren't the first guy to dream and want to make major changes to the way things are done. I do think it is encouraging that you said you needed a good base to start from... I agree. Build a simple straight forward combination with the tried and true methods and systems. Then if you want to test a theory you have a stable base/platform to work from. Remember this sport of racing is all about making the laws of Physics work for you, not cheating them... A long time ago I was told by a very smart Engineering Professor that you couldn't cheat the laws of Physics, only use them correctly and you might get away with bending them a little before you broke them.. :~)
Good Luck....
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