What is the correct description of a 60's Jr. stocker.

pauldilcher · 07-02-2010, 02:52 PM

The last Jr. Stock contested was Nov. 1971 . Ontario Calif.

Mark Yacavone · 07-02-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldilcher

The last Jr. Stock contested was Nov. 1971 . Ontario Calif.

I think you're right, Poppie Pretty good for an old guy.

That event was later in the month of Nov. Can't find the date at the moment.
The LG Nat's were usually the first week in November.

Paul Ceasrine · 07-02-2010, 03:26 PM

Mark,
The Little Guy Nationals at Suffolk Raceway, Virginia was always a good event for the middle of the road guys.
Those Little Stock Eliminator events at local tracks were fun, as long as the Pay-out $ stayed low ($40 for the winner)
Once the dollars started to creap up ($100 for the winner), guys started coming out from under the rocks with those early 60's stockers, that were parked in their barns.
PC

Ed Wright · 07-02-2010, 03:39 PM

Around here Stock Elininator was A/S down. Weren't broken down. Here at Tulsa we ran 1st & 3rd Sundays, qualified, and ran off a ladder. Paid about the same as a WCS, less the contingencies. Ran off of national records. You had to be pretty fast to win anything. Pretty good time to be racing. Still had plenty of cars working to get faster, instead of crawling off to someplace easier. Different world then. Now it's et brackets where any clown with any junk is as fast as a sharp guy with a fast car. It's racing dumbed way down. Like Pete Peery said about running off of indexes: "On Sunday, everybody is a record holder". About right.

Paul Ceasrine · 07-02-2010, 03:51 PM

I have an old Dover flyer with Little stock eliminator prize pay-outs,
I'll post it. Fun to see the older stuff, and what guys would do to win
a Class trophy, Class winner decal, eliminator Winner decal and $40.
My daughter won't baby-sit, unless she's guaranteed $50 (minimum).
Thats for week-days.
Week-ends its $60.
Funny thing about those Little Stock Eliminators. There was always some ringer in the crowd. In 68', we had a guy with a 66' Chevy II Nova SS
in K/SA with a supposed 283/220HP engine. Won about 5 events in a row. Then we see him at the 68' Super/Stock Magazine Nationals in Long Island in F/SA (claiming a 327/275HP). The next week he's back running K/SA. Knew he wouldn't get protested, because you had to put up $200
to protest for a top-engine tear down. Nobody was willing to put up the $, and wait into Sunday evening for the inspection.. Ran 13.40's, and was on the brakes about 200' from the traps, $40 was worth alot more back then.
PC

bob shirley · 07-02-2010, 04:41 PM

there was some big money races around.
in 1966 we took our k/s 55 wagon to westhampton on long island.was a three days race.
we won every class there was all three days including top eliminater on sunday night.
left with 6 trophy's and $800.00.
was a lot of money back then,never forget it.

Ed Wright · 07-02-2010, 06:16 PM

I had an interesting conversation with Jere Stahl this week. I had not talked to him since the NHRA World Finals here in Tulsa, 1967? (1968?) he and Bill Stiles used a friends shop when here. We were talking about the old days (whoda thunk it?) When he set his first record with the '56 Chevy wagon (learned he didn't own it) he lowered it from 14.25 to 13.56! Had his first set of headers. I remember the attention that brought. Jere said they had not thought about getting their spot from that. When I started we had flagmen, and got 25' per class, 250' max. My 'wagon got the same 250' A/S throughout D/S. Was usually enough. :-). 7" tires saved my rear against the higher classed cars.

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pauldilcher Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 425 Likes: 1 Liked 52 Times in 9 Posts	Re: What is the correct description of a 60's Jr. stocker. The last Jr. Stock contested was Nov. 1971 . Ontario Calif.

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Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: What is the correct description of a 60's Jr. stocker. Mark, The Little Guy Nationals at Suffolk Raceway, Virginia was always a good event for the middle of the road guys. Those Little Stock Eliminator events at local tracks were fun, as long as the Pay-out $ stayed low ($40 for the winner) Once the dollars started to creap up ($100 for the winner), guys started coming out from under the rocks with those early 60's stockers, that were parked in their barns. PC

07-02-2010, 03:39 PM	#4
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: What is the correct description of a 60's Jr. stocker. Around here Stock Elininator was A/S down. Weren't broken down. Here at Tulsa we ran 1st & 3rd Sundays, qualified, and ran off a ladder. Paid about the same as a WCS, less the contingencies. Ran off of national records. You had to be pretty fast to win anything. Pretty good time to be racing. Still had plenty of cars working to get faster, instead of crawling off to someplace easier. Different world then. Now it's et brackets where any clown with any junk is as fast as a sharp guy with a fast car. It's racing dumbed way down. Like Pete Peery said about running off of indexes: "On Sunday, everybody is a record holder". About right. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA Last edited by Ed Wright; 07-02-2010 at 03:41 PM.

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Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: What is the correct description of a 60's Jr. stocker. I have an old Dover flyer with Little stock eliminator prize pay-outs, I'll post it. Fun to see the older stuff, and what guys would do to win a Class trophy, Class winner decal, eliminator Winner decal and $40. My daughter won't baby-sit, unless she's guaranteed $50 (minimum). Thats for week-days. Week-ends its $60. Funny thing about those Little Stock Eliminators. There was always some ringer in the crowd. In 68', we had a guy with a 66' Chevy II Nova SS in K/SA with a supposed 283/220HP engine. Won about 5 events in a row. Then we see him at the 68' Super/Stock Magazine Nationals in Long Island in F/SA (claiming a 327/275HP). The next week he's back running K/SA. Knew he wouldn't get protested, because you had to put up $200 to protest for a top-engine tear down. Nobody was willing to put up the $, and wait into Sunday evening for the inspection.. Ran 13.40's, and was on the brakes about 200' from the traps, $40 was worth alot more back then. PC Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 07-02-2010 at 04:03 PM.

07-02-2010, 04:41 PM	#6
bob shirley Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: las vegas Posts: 53 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What is the correct description of a 60's Jr. stocker. there was some big money races around. in 1966 we took our k/s 55 wagon to westhampton on long island.was a three days race. we won every class there was all three days including top eliminater on sunday night. left with 6 trophy's and $800.00. was a lot of money back then,never forget it.

07-02-2010, 06:16 PM	#7
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: What is the correct description of a 60's Jr. stocker. I had an interesting conversation with Jere Stahl this week. I had not talked to him since the NHRA World Finals here in Tulsa, 1967? (1968?) he and Bill Stiles used a friends shop when here. We were talking about the old days (whoda thunk it?) When he set his first record with the '56 Chevy wagon (learned he didn't own it) he lowered it from 14.25 to 13.56! Had his first set of headers. I remember the attention that brought. Jere said they had not thought about getting their spot from that. When I started we had flagmen, and got 25' per class, 250' max. My 'wagon got the same 250' A/S throughout D/S. Was usually enough. :-). 7" tires saved my rear against the higher classed cars. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA