Drag Pak/Cobra Jet FX classes

[GUMP]

Why not....

A/FX @ 7.0

B/FX @ 8.0

C/FX @ 9.0

....make the indexes realistic and everyone should be happy.

[Sean Kennedy]

Originally Posted by GUMP

Why not....

A/FX @ 7.0

B/FX @ 8.0

C/FX @ 9.0

....make the indexes realistic and everyone should be happy.

It makes sense. I don't see the owners of the paper cars going for it, it would take away the unfair advantage they know they have.

[Rusty Gillis]

It should start at 6.0 with .50 between the classes.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Rusty Gillis

It should start at 6.0 with .50 between the classes.

I don't see why you would need to add a bunch of classes. If I really had my way you would have A/FX only. All "paper" cars. Anything that wouldn't fit at 7.0 should go to Super Stock.

This would be a cool car at 7.0!

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by GUMP

I don't see why you would need to add a bunch of classes. If I really had my way you would have A/FX only. All "paper" cars. Anything that wouldn't fit at 7.0 should go to Super Stock.

This would be a cool car at 7.0!

Yeah, except the factor for it is 9.0.
And the shipping weight is near 3800.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Sean Kennedy

I don't see the owners of the paper cars going for it....

Now you have lost me. Why make dumb statements like that?

[Alan Roehrich]

At 7.0, a realistic index would be around 9.50, since the weight break for SS/C is 7.0, and we've already seen a CJ in SS/BA run 8.50 @ 157 in 3400 feet of air. I bet they don't go for that. But the math is pretty close. We've seen a SS/DA CJ run a 9-teen in the same air, and the break for SS/D is 7.5.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

At 7.0, a realistic index would be around 9.50, since the weight break for SS/C is 7.0, and we've already seen a CJ in SS/BA run 8.50 @ 157 in 3400 feet of air. I bet they don't go for that. But the math is pretty close. We've seen a SS/DA CJ run a 9-teen in the same air, and the break for SS/D is 7.5.

I'm talking about stock. As far as the Camaro goes, if there is an A/FX class there is no reason to not allow GM a "paper" car or two! After all, how many 5.9 DP's were built?

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by GUMP

I'm talking about stock. As far as the Camaro goes, if there is an A/FX class there is no reason to not allow GM a "paper" car or two! After all, how many 5.9 DP's were built?

I'm talking about Stock as well. At 7.5 they're coasting to low 9 second passes. Take a half pound off of them and they lose over 200 pounds, making the 8's easily in reach on the same punch and coast set up they run low 9's with now. Those fast Super Stock CJ's have nearly stock engines.

The CJ's have an Eaton blower, that Eaton says they designed to produce adequate boost efficiently on a 7 liter engine, on a 4.6 liter engine. They have not even scratched the surface of the potential. The DP cars have a 1000cfm throttle body on a single plane intake that most Super Stock cars would love to have. There's more potential for flow there on a 5.9 or 6.1 liter engine than there is on any single carburetor engine in Stock, and for that matter, more than any 3x2 engine. Only the two 4 barrel engines can match them in flow capacity, and that's only the capacity of the carburetors and the throttle bodies, it leaves the intake out entirely.

All this silly talk of people being surprised about how fast these new cars can go is nonsense. Anyone who has built high performance engines for any real length of time saw the potential for 8 second performance in Stock immediately.

I told you before, and I'll say it again, the race package for the Camaro ain't coming. GM killed that program well over two years ago, I talked to the guy who started it and was in charge of it. The program is as dead as a door nail and all the people have been either moved to other programs or no longer even work there. What program was there never progressed past the information gathering stage. They started requesting input from racers on what they wanted to see, and the program ended less than a year later.

[BlueOval Ralph]

Allan as I read the NHRA poated specs the 2010 Super Stock 500hp has a Wipple in the specs.

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

I'm talking about Stock as well. At 7.5 they're coasting to low 9 second passes. Take a half pound off of them and they lose over 200 pounds, making the 8's easily in reach on the same punch and coast set up they run low 9's with now. Those fast Super Stock CJ's have nearly stock engines.

The CJ's have an Eaton blower, that Eaton says they designed to produce adequate boost efficiently on a 7 liter engine, on a 4.6 liter engine. They have not even scratched the surface of the potential. The DP cars have a 1000cfm throttle body on a single plane intake that most Super Stock cars would love to have. There's more potential for flow there on a 5.9 or 6.1 liter engine than there is on any single carburetor engine in Stock, and for that matter, more than any 3x2 engine. Only the two 4 barrel engines can match them in flow capacity, and that's only the capacity of the carburetors and the throttle bodies, it leaves the intake out entirely.

All this silly talk of people being surprised about how fast these new cars can go is nonsense. Anyone who has built high performance engines for any real length of time saw the potential for 8 second performance in Stock immediately.

I told you before, and I'll say it again, the race package for the Camaro ain't coming. GM killed that program well over two years ago, I talked to the guy who started it and was in charge of it. The program is as dead as a door nail and all the people have been either moved to other programs or no longer even work there. What program was there never progressed past the information gathering stage. They started requesting input from racers on what they wanted to see, and the program ended less than a year later.