Consensus By Professional Engine Builders

Larry Hill · 10-05-2010, 02:03 PM

Tommy, a friend of mine, Stewart Beckham, said hello.

You are correct my old Cuda never was fast, all of the class trophies must have come from yard sales.

Glenn Person · 10-05-2010, 02:39 PM

Tommy
I assume Bobby, Jimmy and Joe rarely post on the internet because they are working dilligently to stay on top of their game and stay competetive. Since you say you have not heard from any racers in the top of their class I felt compelled to reply .As you know, over the years I have tried to be fast and was occasionally rewarded with a record or three. Now you arn't really so callious to think these aforementioned front running racers and their" traditional" cars deserve to be rendered non competetive in heads up competetion by the new combos. All we accomplish by this is to force these beautiful old muscle cars away from racing and ultimately reduce car counts. This is not good for NHRA or stk/ss. I don't believe any real racer wants this kind of scenario, but only wishes a fair chance to win with his or her chosen ride. For some, "going with confidence" is not currently possible. I am confident NHRA want to reduce this disparity, and is working at this as we speak.
Hope to see you and your dad this fall
GP

Peter Ash · 10-05-2010, 02:46 PM

Maybe the nhra should have hired a 10 year old with a computer to sort this out before it happenned?

Can we all agree now that those with the knowledge do not have the power to deal with this, and those with the power, apparently do not have the knowledge to deal with this!

How could there possibly be wool over the eyes of those blaming the factories? I do not for one microsecond believe that anybody in their right mind could have overlooked the hp ratings submitted to the sanctioning body!!!

X-TECH MAN · 10-05-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by peter ash

maybe the nhra should have hired a 10 year old with a computer to sort this out before it happenned?

Can we all agree now that those with the knowledge do not have the power to deal with this, and those with the power, apparently do not have the knowledge to deal with this!

How could there possibly be wool over the eyes of those blaming the factories? I do not for one microsecond believe that anybody in their right mind could have overlooked the hp ratings submitted to the sanctioning body!!!

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BPotts · 10-05-2010, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

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I don't remeber all the details, but when the GM fuel injectected cars came on the scene did they go directly into the "fuel Injected" classes to sort themselves out or did they originally go into the regular stock classes? Now, knowing that they did put them in their own classes for a while to sort out the HP ratings, why didn't the DP and the CJ do the same thing?

K Stubbs · 10-05-2010, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BPotts

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I don't remeber all the details, but when the GM fuel injectected cars came on the scene did they go directly into the "fuel Injected" classes to sort themselves out or did they originally go into the regular stock classes? Now, knowing that they did put them in their own classes for a while to sort out the HP ratings, why didn't the DP and the CJ do the same thing?

There wasnt any fuel injected classes when they were first raced and it caused the same kind of problems. The new cars outrunning the old (most), until they were factored several times.

Jim Cimarolli · 10-05-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Ash

Maybe the nhra should have hired a 10 year old with a computer to sort this out before it happenned?

Can we all agree now that those with the knowledge do not have the power to deal with this, and those with the power, apparently do not have the knowledge to deal with this!

How could there possibly be wool over the eyes of those blaming the factories? I do not for one microsecond believe that anybody in their right mind could have overlooked the hp ratings submitted to the sanctioning body!!!

I think that an old drunk with a "Big Chief" tablet and one of those big first grade pencils could do it too!!

Dgal · 10-05-2010, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Cimarolli

I think that an old drunk with a "Big Chief" tablet and one of those big first grade pencils could do it too!!

What makes you think this isn't what happened?

Don

Jim Cimarolli · 10-05-2010, 09:34 PM

What I am saying is that a guy like that COULD have gotten it right if they cared to do so.

5343 STOCK · 10-05-2010, 09:41 PM

I'm not a big Internet poster, but I watched my wife get outran 1st rd of Indy 2010 by approximately 6 tenths and 9 mph by a dragpak challenger in G/SA heads-up.

Good experience to say the least. I would put our cars up against any "real car" , and I think we'd have at least a shot.

As a participant for many years, I feel the worst for the upper class cars which have been virtually made useless by the new breed of cars. Think about the tens of thousands of dollars spent to make the old muscle run as good as they are able too, quite impressive, I believe.

I hope NHRA does the right thing and makes the playing field level for all involved. Stock Eliminator should be based on enguinity and work, not solely on Hp factors.

10-05-2010, 02:03 PM	#1
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,650 Likes: 1,942 Liked 10,767 Times in 2,238 Posts	Re: Consensus By Professional Engine Builders Tommy, a friend of mine, Stewart Beckham, said hello. You are correct my old Cuda never was fast, all of the class trophies must have come from yard sales. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817 Last edited by Larry Hill; 10-05-2010 at 03:14 PM.

10-05-2010, 02:39 PM	#2
Glenn Person Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Regina, Canada Posts: 29 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Consensus By Professional Engine Builders Tommy I assume Bobby, Jimmy and Joe rarely post on the internet because they are working dilligently to stay on top of their game and stay competetive. Since you say you have not heard from any racers in the top of their class I felt compelled to reply .As you know, over the years I have tried to be fast and was occasionally rewarded with a record or three. Now you arn't really so callious to think these aforementioned front running racers and their" traditional" cars deserve to be rendered non competetive in heads up competetion by the new combos. All we accomplish by this is to force these beautiful old muscle cars away from racing and ultimately reduce car counts. This is not good for NHRA or stk/ss. I don't believe any real racer wants this kind of scenario, but only wishes a fair chance to win with his or her chosen ride. For some, "going with confidence" is not currently possible. I am confident NHRA want to reduce this disparity, and is working at this as we speak. Hope to see you and your dad this fall GP __________________ Glenn Person 5356 STK

10-05-2010, 02:46 PM	#3
Peter Ash Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 262 Likes: 2 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Consensus By Professional Engine Builders Maybe the nhra should have hired a 10 year old with a computer to sort this out before it happenned? Can we all agree now that those with the knowledge do not have the power to deal with this, and those with the power, apparently do not have the knowledge to deal with this! How could there possibly be wool over the eyes of those blaming the factories? I do not for one microsecond believe that anybody in their right mind could have overlooked the hp ratings submitted to the sanctioning body!!! Last edited by Peter Ash; 10-05-2010 at 02:51 PM.

10-05-2010, 09:34 PM	#9
Jim Cimarolli Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sulphur Springs Texas Posts: 743 Likes: 146 Liked 166 Times in 46 Posts	Re: Consensus By Professional Engine Builders What I am saying is that a guy like that COULD have gotten it right if they cared to do so.

10-05-2010, 09:41 PM	#10
5343 STOCK Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: MINNESOTA Posts: 1 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Consensus By Professional Engine Builders I'm not a big Internet poster, but I watched my wife get outran 1st rd of Indy 2010 by approximately 6 tenths and 9 mph by a dragpak challenger in G/SA heads-up. Good experience to say the least. I would put our cars up against any "real car" , and I think we'd have at least a shot. As a participant for many years, I feel the worst for the upper class cars which have been virtually made useless by the new breed of cars. Think about the tens of thousands of dollars spent to make the old muscle run as good as they are able too, quite impressive, I believe. I hope NHRA does the right thing and makes the playing field level for all involved. Stock Eliminator should be based on enguinity and work, not solely on Hp factors.