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View Poll Results: Opinions on consolidating classes
Combine Sticks and Automatics 33 14.73%
Spread Weight Breaks (i.e., .5 for upper classes, .75 for some, then to 1.00 lb breaks) 22 9.82%
Both of the above 36 16.07%
LEAVE IT ALONE! 133 59.38%
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Old 11-26-2010, 08:39 PM   #1
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Alan, You are kind of right and kind of wrong. You make a good point with the availability of cams, converters, etc... but just in case I've missed something for the last few years, where would I find let's say a set of 4.88, 5.00, or 5.13 gears because I would like a nice set. That would allow me to run a slick with a decent contact patch instead of the tiny little 20 inch tall M/T's that I have to run today in order to mask the fact that I can't get a little bit of gear. Maybe you never thought about why all of the FWD cars run the small tires, now you know. The other thing you need is a little physics refresher, yes the math works but the physics don't. You see, all cars whether FWD or RWD react the same way under acceleration, the reaction causes the front end to rise, thus helping the RWD gain traction with the big gear and the big tire. The FWD is just the opposite and very challenging to correct within the rules. I won't even get in to Fuel Cell placement and Battery relocation advantages. So, yes they could be merged but it would need to be done at the HP level, believe me.
Well said Owen, but much to our dismay M/T no longer makes the 20" tall slicks...the 8" wide ones were sold out, and I bought two of the last 3 slicks that M/T had in their online "Garage Sale" section, this past summer (unless the mail order folks have large enough quantities of them for our benefit?). When those wear out, I'm going to have to start using the D.O.T. 22" or "24" tires they have available, or change my wheel size to use other slick sizes that might fit, from Goodyear, or M&H?
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Old 11-26-2010, 10:40 PM   #2
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Well said Owen, but much to our dismay M/T no longer makes the 20" tall slicks...the 8" wide ones were sold out, and I bought two of the last 3 slicks that M/T had in their online "Garage Sale" section, this past summer (unless the mail order folks have large enough quantities of them for our benefit?). When those wear out, I'm going to have to start using the D.O.T. 22" or "24" tires they have available, or change my wheel size to use other slick sizes that might fit, from Goodyear, or M&H?
Hey Gary
You want to sell those 20" tires Lol.
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Old 11-27-2010, 08:42 AM   #3
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Dennis, back in the old days, Goodyear made some 6"x 20" Formula Vee tires that worked fine on the Sunbird. They were a 13' rim size though. They weren't listed in the Drag Tire catalog though. Might try to find a Road Racing cat. or maybe they have a websight?
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Old 11-29-2010, 04:04 PM   #4
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You want to sell those 20" tires Lol.
I might have to consider it Dennis, but like someone else said, I like these tires because they fit my lightweight Cragar (14" X 8") wheels. I'll have to buy bigger or smaller wheels in order to use those sizes that Billy spoke of here, and I'm not ready to do that yet. So I'll wear these out, and go from there.

However, one reason I'm lookin forward to the different sized tires is by going at least 2" taller, I'll be able to stop having to change over from taller trailer fitting tires, to being able to go to the races ready to unload the car, and head right to tech...at 52 I;m not much of a spring chicken anymore...lol!!!
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Old 11-29-2010, 04:37 PM   #5
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Heck Gary, wait until your 67!
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Heck Gary, wait until your 67!
Ed, congrats for your making it to 67!!! I hope I can make it to 67...heck into my 70's would be awesome...but it's not all up to me for that? I'll say this though, the time I waste changing those street towing tires that I have on my front end during my travels, to the slicks, will be eliminated...thus being race ready once the car is off of the trailer!

I had the ideal given to me to adjust the angle of my trailer during loading and unloading, so I could tow my car as such, but those small slicks didn't hold air like the bigger ones you rwd racers use (even with tubes in them???), so that was a "one and done" effort for me!
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I might have to consider it Dennis, but like someone else said, I like these tires because they fit my lightweight Cragar (14" X 8") wheels. I'll have to buy bigger or smaller wheels in order to use those sizes that Billy spoke of here, and I'm not ready to do that yet. So I'll wear these out, and go from there.

However, one reason I'm lookin forward to the different sized tires is by going at least 2" taller, I'll be able to stop having to change over from taller trailer fitting tires, to being able to go to the races ready to unload the car, and head right to tech...at 52 I;m not much of a spring chicken anymore...lol!!!
Gary I am 57 I know what you mean Lol
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Old 11-29-2010, 06:50 PM   #8
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Anybody got any 4x100mm 15x4-ish rims? I'd really like to ditch the steel-belted radials I have on the back of the Turismo in favor of some M/T front-runners.
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Anybody got any 4x100mm 15x4-ish rims? I'd really like to ditch the steel-belted radials I have on the back of the Turismo in favor of some M/T front-runners.
Mike I think the Honda guys use a 4x100mm bolt pattern Try there websites.
You will have to steam the rice off them though. LOL
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If the 14" tires are not available anymore It will slow me down a bunch It will be like switching from a 3.73 gear to a 3.0 gear. I guess I'll have to go over on the crybaby side and beg for a softer index.
Nah!!!! only fooling LOL I'll never go over. LOL


I know there are circle track tires that are 20" tall but don't know how they'll hook.
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