Consolidating Classes

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by art leong

Mike I think the Honda guys use a 4x100mm bolt pattern Try there websites.
You will have to steam the rice off them though. LOL

Now Art, that's more than LOL funny, that's ROLOL..(ROLLING OVER)!!!

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

Anybody got any 4x100mm 15x4-ish rims? I'd really like to ditch the steel-belted radials I have on the back of the Turismo in favor of some M/T front-runners.

No you don't!

[BobUnkefer]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

Anybody got any 4x100mm 15x4-ish rims? I'd really like to ditch the steel-belted radials I have on the back of the Turismo in favor of some M/T front-runners.

Mike,
get to be good friends with your local recycling/salvage yard and ask to look at their Hollander wheel book. With some studying you would be surprised to find what is readily available.... and I would think someone already has a 4x100 15" wheel

Unk

[Bobby Fazio]

I love people who petition to have autos and sticks combined when they have never driven or tried to maintain a stick car. Ya let's do that so the remaining 5 stick cars in super stock (Hemis aside) will surely convert to automatic.

Take off your skirt and build a stick combo if you feel stick cars are unfairly getting a class win here and there. I double dog dare ya! As for clutchless, nope I don't have one, I know how to whack a clutch, rip a 30 year old Doug Nash, and still be consistent.

Here is a suggestion that I don't know if it has ever been proposed or tried in the past: To eliminate all the single runs that everyone is so upset with.. why not be more strict on car classification? At your first divisional of the year, choose the class your car will run (either natural, up one, or down one) and you must run it for all the divisional events. As for nationals, whatever class you put down on your online registration the day you pay your $270 is the class you must run when you arrive at the gate. Haven't they been letting cars switch when they get to tech?

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

Well said Owen, but much to our dismay M/T no longer makes the 20" tall slicks...the 8" wide ones were sold out, and I bought two of the last 3 slicks that M/T had in their online "Garage Sale" section, this past summer (unless the mail order folks have large enough quantities of them for our benefit?). When those wear out, I'm going to have to start using the D.O.T. 22" or "24" tires they have available, or change my wheel size to use other slick sizes that might fit, from Goodyear, or M&H?

At least according to the website, I got the last two 20x8-14's in existence off the garage sale site, back in January. Evidently, there must've been a couple more hiding in the back room! Might've been hidden inside somebody's Pro Mod tire. LOL They checked the date code on the ones we took off.... they were 14 years old! One of them was dead (cracked sidewall), but the other is actually still fine and has plenty of dot left on it. Kept as a spare.

Eventually, may have to buy new wheels and taller slicks. (22x8-15's or 22x8-13's for more sidewall) Wonder if it might help more than hurt? Ever play with them, Dennis?

[Dennis P Chapman]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

At least according to the website, I got the last two 20x8-14's in existence off the garage sale site, back in January. Evidently, there must've been a couple more hiding in the back room! Might've been hidden inside somebody's Pro Mod tire. LOL They checked the date code on the ones we took off.... they were 14 years old! One of them was dead (cracked sidewall), but the other is actually still fine and has plenty of dot left on it. Kept as a spare.

Eventually, may have to buy new wheels and taller slicks. (22x8-15's or 22x8-13's for more sidewall) Wonder if it might help more than hurt? Ever play with them, Dennis?

Never tried 22x8x13 but I do have set of the 22x8x15. But I just liked the way the car ran with the 20s but will see.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

At least according to the website, I got the last two 20x8-14's in existence off the garage sale site, back in January. Evidently, there must've been a couple more hiding in the back room! Might've been hidden inside somebody's Pro Mod tire. LOL They checked the date code on the ones we took off.... they were 14 years old! One of them was dead (cracked sidewall), but the other is actually still fine and has plenty of dot left on it. Kept as a spare.

Eventually, may have to buy new wheels and taller slicks. (22x8-15's or 22x8-13's for more sidewall) Wonder if it might help more than hurt? Ever play with them, Dennis?

No you were right on buying the last pair of 20x8"x14" slicks...the pair I bought were part of the last three 20x6x14's that they had. Thank GOD I kept my factory mags, because my Cragar's are too wide for those skinny things, and when my 1yr old 8" slicks wear out, that's when I'm going to have to use the DOT slicks, or else buy some smaller/larger wheels that'll allow me to use those other tires that Dennis spoke of. However, after the races I attended in Sept. where I didn't do burnouts for a change, I think I may be alright with those taller tires in the future...heck if Mustangs can run 8-9sec quarters with them, my 15sec ride should be able to hook good with 'em given that they're a taller tire than those slicks are???

[Owen S Quirion]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

No you were right on buying the last pair of 20x8"x14" slicks...the pair I bought were part of the last three 20x6x14's that they had. Thank GOD I kept my factory mags, because my Cragar's are too wide for those skinny things, and when my 1yr old 8" slicks wear out, that's when I'm going to have to use the DOT slicks, or else buy some smaller/larger wheels that'll allow me to use those other tires that Dennis spoke of. However, after the races I attended in Sept. where I didn't do burnouts for a change, I think I may be alright with those taller tires in the future...heck if Mustangs can run 8-9sec quarters with them, my 15sec ride should be able to hook good with 'em given that they're a taller tire than those slicks are???

Gary, Not to worry. I will be testing my transaxle with a 4:47 ratio next year and if it stays together I will be able to provide you with a set for around $800. It will include both sprockets, uses the stock length chain, and you will need the 3.33 factory diff. You will need to turn down the outside diameter of the drive sprocket retainer about an eighth of an inch and do a little grinding inside the chaincase for the driven sprocket clearance but that's about it. After the install, you will be able to use a 23-24 inch tall tire and still have more gear than you run now.

[Michael Beard]

I actually found a pretty light set of 4x100 15x5 wheels from Enkei, but am checking with Holeshot on weight, price, etc, too.

Re: headers... There was actually a bit of stuff made for the 2.2's, as they were popular SCCA cars. I've got a Hooker Super Comp header on the Turismo.

Re: gear ratios, I didn't think you could cut the case. "Any gear ratio that fits third member case or housing permitted"

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Owen S Quirion

Gary, Not to worry. I will be testing my transaxle with a 4:47 ratio next year and if it stays together I will be able to provide you with a set for around $800. It will include both sprockets, uses the stock length chain, and you will need the 3.33 factory diff. You will need to turn down the outside diameter of the drive sprocket retainer about an eighth of an inch and do a little grinding inside the chaincase for the driven sprocket clearance but that's about it. After the install, you will be able to use a 23-24 inch tall tire and still have more gear than you run now.

Owen, I'm running a 3.73 (4cyl J car) planetary in my car now...it's been so long since I changed it over from the factory 2.7-2.9 6cyl factory planetary the car came oem with...would my current gearing be too much? As for that set you have, I'll keep that in mind, but I'll also have what Mark spoke of in mind too (especially if it's cheaper)? Right now I'm dealing with some other looming possibilities for 2011, and my funds are focused on that. Furthermore, my car and I are over 900 miles apart, and it's getting snowed on...however I'd prefer that to being outside in the summer-time temps and wind/dust storms we had the previous 2mths.! Thank you, and you too Mark, for some options that will get me those highly appreciated 4tenths I will greatly appreciate the next time I race at a humid track like Topeka!!!