I am confused

[super comp 112]

Stop bitchin and do something about it. Don't go

[luckydog]

Originally Posted by super comp 112

Stop bitchin and do something about it. Don't go

Thats gonna be my stragedy until something changes.

Originally Posted by sc321

I have not been a member of ihra for 23 years, that may change, not sure if they are any better but as my wife tells me "when is enough ------ enough" ?

In my opinion their much better......although they also have an insurance premium for national events. I think it's $40. Their payouts are a little lower because of the lack of contingency sponsors, but if enough of us get fed up with NHRA and begin running IHRA, the contingency sponsors will come back. IHRA really is a sportsman oriented sanctioning body. It seems as though in the past the IHRA has been seen as a 2nd class organization when compared to the NHRA, for some reason or another. Take a look at a list of their former world champions and you'll see some of the biggest names in NHRA sportsman racing. In my opinion, we all need to stop takin it in the rear from NHRA and give IHRA a chance.........they won't disappoint. Now.....if we could only get them to bring back the old championship points format. If enough of us jumped ship and voiced our opinions, they've proven that they will listen.

just my .02

[frank v]

Originally Posted by d1hitter

has anybody put any thought into how many sportsman racers have been injuried or killed this year ?

unfortunetly ,div 1 had a s/g racer die this year

[frank v]

Originally Posted by luckydog

Thats gonna be my stragedy until something changes.



In my opinion their much better......although they also have an insurance premium for national events. I think it's $40. Their payouts are a little lower because of the lack of contingency sponsors, but if enough of us get fed up with NHRA and begin running IHRA, the contingency sponsors will come back. IHRA really is a sportsman oriented sanctioning body. It seems as though in the past the IHRA has been seen as a 2nd class organization when compared to the NHRA, for some reason or another. Take a look at a list of their former world champions and you'll see some of the biggest names in NHRA sportsman racing. In my opinion, we all need to stop takin it in the rear from NHRA and give IHRA a chance.........they won't disappoint. Now.....if we could only get them to bring back the old championship points format. If enough of us jumped ship and voiced our opinions, they've proven that they will listen.

just my .02

there aren't any ihra tracks that are close (NY)

[sc321]

has anyone every heard of nhra insurance paying out to any of us p-ons? boycott not a bad idea of nationals, still play at divisional unless the "insurance" follows, investment is to great just to park the junk. Maybe we are all wrong and should be asking nhra "may we have more"! crap the $30 is my drinking budget per race not insurance premium.

[SG1809]

Originally Posted by TS310C

I don't know about any of you all, but I have never raced next to a blown fuel car. Nor have I ever driven one at a National event. Therefore I fail to see what that has to do with my insurance. I suppose if I pitted close to the track where one of them could come over the wall and slam into my pit area. What it comes down to is another way for NHRA to get money from us. I have yet to hear any legitimate answer as to why we pay this insurance. And by legitimate I mean that the money we are paying is used for insurance for us and not to fund something unrelated to us.

We will never find out. In this economy they just keep pushing us away. Double the Chassis Cert fee, It took the tech all of about 10 minutes to do my car.....$150.00.... not bad for NHRA, then double the license fee....from $50 to 100.00 Why???What could possibly justify those increases.... not bad again for NHRA.
Now they raise the National event fee for an Insurance increase. Yea right
I've been doing this a long time and it's getting to the point of just running the associations (MASGA) or brackets.

Regards to all,
Pat I
Sg1809

[luckydog]

Originally Posted by frank v

there aren't any ihra tracks that are close (NY)

Yeah, unfortunately we got the same problem around here too...

[Rick Bailey]

Im with sc321..........and I said it in a earler post myself......boycott nat events.........(as if that would ever happen, lol )

I think the reduced quotas will help some ..............forced boycott. (if too little of a grade)

Rick

[Jeff Beckman]

Guys, I think they want us at Divisionals and not at Nationals. It seams rather transparent to me, If you insist on being a pain in the butt and running at a fuel show!, You are going to pay for it. They want just enough filler and by making it painfull for most sportsman, it will take care of its self.

In the end it is Pro Stock that gets screwed. I know how often I am on the edge of traction in my SC car, can you imagine from a 1000 feet on trying to keep a Pro Stock car under you? Maybe Davey Conlley could comment.

I would prefere if from Top Dragster, Top Sportsman down to be at a Division only level with a Jegs type Sportsnationals. Think about it, what do we get out of a national event anyway.

If anyone would help buy the IHRA, I bet we could make the best Sportsman series on the face of the planet. I'll put up the first Million, no BS.

[X-TECH MAN]

You can only get IHRA to grow to what it once was by attending their races. If enough would start to attend and stay away from the other associations races then the NHRA tracks would jump ship and become IHRA tracks for 2012 and beyond. The manufacturers would follow but it takes time and commmitment from the racers. How many on this forum are to young to remember how IHRA had the "N" group running scared in the 1970's and 80's. Even the early 90's the participation was good but bad management, outside forces and the economy has just about left the racer with nothing but NHRA......THAT would be a bad deal for everyone. For those who complain that the races are to far away (ligitimate gripe) the only way for IHRA to grow and come back to your areas is to support them FIRST. How many attend far off NHRA races yet complain about a 10 hour drive to an IHRA race?
If Alex D. started a sporstsman assoc. in the next year to include T/S and T/D on down with NO Fuel cars and NO alcohol cars or even another US Class Nationals like the one of about 10 years ago with a REAL purse payout how many would support him???? Its something to consider or are you all just NHRA diehards!
The best part of IHRA and if Alex was to jump in with both feet is there are NO grade points required. Just show up.