What would S, S/S be without teardowns at Nats?

[Wade Mahaffey]

Alan and Billy, I understand your passion and it's a beautifull thing. I don't know either of you personally, but respect your seniority in the sport. I look at it like this: compromise during tough times to keep it alive. I would give a little, to keep from losing the whole thing. Then ride the rough time while looking for ways to improve. Isn't that what the Stock, Super/Stock combo races are about. There is no teardown at those events, It's no heads-up and a dial-in. Now the car counts are becoming about the same, but the swing is toward the combos. There must be something folks like about it, maybe it's just aggravation mitigation! LOL

Wade Mahaffey

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Wade Mahaffey

Alan and Billy, I understand your passion and it's a beautifull thing. I don't know either of you personally, but respect your seniority in the sport. I look at it like this: compromise during tough times to keep it alive. I would give a little, to keep from losing the whole thing. Then ride the rough time while looking for ways to improve. Isn't that what the Stock, Super/Stock combo races are about. There is no teardown at those events, It's no heads-up and a dial-in. Now the car counts are becoming about the same, but the swing is toward the combos. There must be something folks like about it, maybe it's just aggravation mitigation! LOL

Wade Mahaffey

I look at it like this: compromise during tough times to keep it alive. I would give a little, to keep from losing the whole thing. Then ride the rough time while looking for ways to improve. Isn't that what the Stock, Super/Stock combo races are about. There is no tear down at those events, It's no heads-up and a dial-in.

If you want to do this go to your local track every weekend.It's called bracket racing.Been around a long time.

Ben Franklin's quote,actually about liberty,comes close to compromising on S/SS rules
is right on the mark
Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

[CycloneFE]

It sounds like to me that the combo's cost less to enter and pay almost what the sanctioned race does with less BS and "enhancements". If the NHRA does not wake up they will have lost their cash cow.

As these guys have said before, it may not be fixable.

[Mark Yacavone]

Wade, there are no teardowns at Divisionals except for Nat'l records and now there's a cap on them,for the most part.
Those entries are way down too.
I can't see where no teardowns at Nat'l would do anything except bring us even closer to Bracket II

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Wade Mahaffey

Alan and Billy, I understand your passion and it's a beautifull thing. I don't know either of you personally, but respect your seniority in the sport. I look at it like this: compromise during tough times to keep it alive. I would give a little, to keep from losing the whole thing. Then ride the rough time while looking for ways to improve. Isn't that what the Stock, Super/Stock combo races are about. There is no teardown at those events, It's no heads-up and a dial-in. Now the car counts are becoming about the same, but the swing is toward the combos. There must be something folks like about it, maybe it's just aggravation mitigation! LOL

Wade Mahaffey

Wade, our combo races are NOT "no heads up" races. We do have scales and heads up races. If we took the heads up races out we'd lose a lot of our car count. No, we don't have tear downs. But I don't think anyone would be happy about what would likely happen if they showed up at our races and tried to get away with cheating. because the racers would know.

It is not the lack of heads up races and the lack of tear down that make the combo races popular. It's the way the racers are treated.

[Dennis P Chapman]

Tear downs are no fun at all plain and simple. If your setting a record that is your chose.

[Nitro Joe Jackson]

Back in the day.............When my father won a national event at a AHRA or IHRA national event Vance Brady of AHRA would walk over and congratulate you and then tell you before we do winner circle pictures, we need a head off and then you can party as the winner.
But that was back in the day.

[Dave Ribeiro]

Wade,

Come race with us before you try to change things ? Forget Nationals, they will be a thing of the past in a couple of years ... As Mark or Ed said , there are very few tear downs @ Div. & opens.
As Ed said, thats why you have bracket racing, no-rules, race any car, motor, buttons, slicks, etc... Has anyone ask why wondered why Stk &
S/S racers keep coming back , inspite of all the complaints ?

Wade, please don't take it personal, but everyone keeps trying to change things to their own agenda ...

As I said before this is going to be a tough year for racing, unless you have a big sponsor ? Racer's , have been upset with NHRA & IHRA before the lose of Jobs, now with gas prices going to 4-5 dollars a gallon for tow rigs... ($10-18 for race gas) not counting entry fees, hotels, food, etc ... Not doom & Gloom, just real facts that effect how racers will have to balance their schedule ... This is what is driving the low numbers @ Nationals not tear-downs.
One last thing about teardowns , we all know of racers who have never been torn down in 10-15 years ? Other racers get torndown 4-5 times a year, how does everyone gets torndown at least once a year sound ? ... That way everyone get to share the Fun !!! To be continued ...........................
Wade, how's the Vette coming ?

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Dave Ribeiro

how does everyone gets torndown at least once a year sound ?

Dave, I'm good with that but I doubt you'll get NHRA to go along with it. They just don't have enough knowledgable manpower anymore. But at least I'd like to see more spot checks even at Divisionals. It doesn't take long to look at a carb, pull a valvecover, pull a header or even pull an intake or P+G a motor. Remember, you don't really need the threat of a teardown looming over your head to keep you legal, you only need the threat of the possibility of being torn down. As it stands now, the only real chance of a teardown is at Indy or after setting a record.

[Dave Ribeiro]

Billy,

You are right On about the teardowns , but its nice to keep them honest .....