Sticks & Autos Together (Class)

bill dedman · 03-19-2011, 10:00 PM

Ed, and your Doppelganger...

I was running an NHRA Stock Eliminator (class legal) car in 1966-71... and worked as a Stocker Tech a 3 different drag strips from 1958 'til 1969.

Now, I am on a forum that is expressly designed for people who may or may not race, currently, but has self-appointed "moderators" who think they have the right to tell people what they can and cannot post.

Amazing...

If you don't like reading about what some people think may be a good idea for even-ing out the playing field when the rules change, DON'T READ IT1!

If I am watching TV and I don't like what comes on, I change the channel.

At least, if you don't agree with what's being suggested, have the intelligence to state your case and tell what's wrong with th idea being suggested, not just use the Fernandez approach and attack the poster for bringing up an idea in a forum that exists for non-racers (as well as current racers) according to Kan Miele, who runs this show.

Now, I'll ask both of you again, IF the NHRA combines the automatics and sticks, and IF the manual tranny guys receive "legal" clutchless shifting, what would you see as a way to make the automatics more conpetetive with the new "clutchless" sticks, in a heads-up race?

My thought is, give 'em a trans-brake, OR, a lockup converter (but, not both.)

This is a discussion forum. Let's discuss. If you feel like it's somehow beneath you to talk to someone who doesn't currently run a car in an HRA Class, then maybe you should frequent the BB that only accepts posts from people who have a current competition number. This forum is for the rest of us... Ken set it up that way. If that doesn't work for you, talk to him.

Ed Fernandez · 03-19-2011, 10:58 PM

OK Bill you've worn me down.You can fight wind mills on your own.

bill dedman · 03-20-2011, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

OK Bill you've worn me down.You can fight wind mills on your own.

Thanks, Ed. Just like the red light issue, when you can't come up with a logical, legitimate and reasonable argument, you just cave in. And make it sound like I'ts MY FAULT that you have no answers...

There are no "wind mills" here; just suggestions for ways to make racing better and more equitable...but, that's outside your frame of reference.... so be it.

Ed Fernandez · 03-20-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bill dedman

Thanks, Ed. Just like the red light issue, when you can't come up with a logical, legitimate and reasonable argument, you just cave in. And make it sound like I'ts MY FAULT that you have no answers...

There are no "wind mills" here; just suggestions for ways to make racing better and more equitable...but, that's outside your frame of reference.... so be it.

You still can't let go.Bill,go ***** in your hat.

bill dedman · 03-20-2011, 03:47 PM

Have the gurus at Wikipedia read your meaningful, well-thought-out and full-to-the-brim with logic and clear thinking posts on the red light issue, and here? I would bet if they had, they'd include another paragraph on your ability to ignore the facts and employ circular thinking in all your "arguments." LOL!!!

Your "KILL THE MESSENGER" efforts MIGHT make it into the Guiness Book of World Records, for the consistency of their use... worth a shot!

Like they say in Hollywood, there's no such thing as "bad publicity"
Congratulations on your new-found fame! They don't know your real strengths, though.

03-19-2011, 10:00 PM	#1
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Sticks & Autos Together (Class) Ed, and your Doppelganger... I was running an NHRA Stock Eliminator (class legal) car in 1966-71... and worked as a Stocker Tech a 3 different drag strips from 1958 'til 1969. Now, I am on a forum that is expressly designed for people who may or may not race, currently, but has self-appointed "moderators" who think they have the right to tell people what they can and cannot post. Amazing... If you don't like reading about what some people think may be a good idea for even-ing out the playing field when the rules change, DON'T READ IT1! If I am watching TV and I don't like what comes on, I change the channel. At least, if you don't agree with what's being suggested, have the intelligence to state your case and tell what's wrong with th idea being suggested, not just use the Fernandez approach and attack the poster for bringing up an idea in a forum that exists for non-racers (as well as current racers) according to Kan Miele, who runs this show. Now, I'll ask both of you again, IF the NHRA combines the automatics and sticks, and IF the manual tranny guys receive "legal" clutchless shifting, what would you see as a way to make the automatics more conpetetive with the new "clutchless" sticks, in a heads-up race? My thought is, give 'em a trans-brake, OR, a lockup converter (but, not both.) This is a discussion forum. Let's discuss. If you feel like it's somehow beneath you to talk to someone who doesn't currently run a car in an HRA Class, then maybe you should frequent the BB that only accepts posts from people who have a current competition number. This forum is for the rest of us... Ken set it up that way. If that doesn't work for you, talk to him. __________________ Bill

03-19-2011, 10:58 PM	#2
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Sticks & Autos Together (Class) OK Bill you've worn me down.You can fight wind mills on your own. Attached Images __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

03-20-2011, 03:47 PM	#5
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Sticks & Autos Together (Class) Have the gurus at Wikipedia read your meaningful, well-thought-out and full-to-the-brim with logic and clear thinking posts on the red light issue, and here? I would bet if they had, they'd include another paragraph on your ability to ignore the facts and employ circular thinking in all your "arguments." LOL!!! Your "KILL THE MESSENGER" efforts MIGHT make it into the Guiness Book of World Records, for the consistency of their use... worth a shot! Like they say in Hollywood, there's no such thing as "bad publicity" Congratulations on your new-found fame! They don't know your real strengths, though. __________________ Bill