Crate Engines in NHRA?

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by dragracer502

All right, time to join in on the fun.........The point that my Crate Camaro friend is to being too kind to make its this. It is not 1970 any more! Hasn't been for 41 years now, so let it go, time marches on, and not even one of you with a numbers correct, factory original race version, 1 of 5, had to be on the "special" list (wink wink, nudge nudge) to get one, big block, 4 speed, light weight stocker can make the good old days come back! Thats why they are the "good old days" because they are gone. So lets deal with reality here then. The issue that has you "originals" all in knots on almost every other thread is the "death" of stock .......and I worry about that as well, but it is not because of new "bogus" combinations coming in. Stock is going to die because there are fewer new racers coming in than there are old ones going out. Plain and simple, if you are one of the fortunate few who have "been there and burried that index" racing an original equipment stocker, chances are you are worried about the end of your time on earth, and only think its the end of Stock Eliminator that has you awake late at night. Instead of ruling down from on high about what combination is in and whats out...you should be doing everything in your power to bring any and every new racer interested in taking on the challenge of Stock racing, to the track. In the end, when you get over your ego trip of running Class, you will understand that we are all just running a glorified bracket race, so get over yourself, put on both bulbs, and settle racing arguments where they belong.....on the track! Me and Crate Camaro, we will be waiting here in Ontario for anyone with the balls enough to risk having their $100 000 "real" stocker shown the gate by a crate motor car.

My, my, my, ain't you just cute? Such venom and vitriol, you bring so much to the conversation. At least, you think you do. There ain't no "we", there's us, and there's you. NHRA draws about 3 times the car count that IHRA does. Not that I'm any real fan of NHRA, nor do I have any dislike at all for IHRA. Tell us again how you crate motor boys are going to save our class.

You know, as bad as you think you are, as much as you think you can prove to us, since obviously none of us has any reason to come up there, just call up your fellow Canadian, John Armstrong, and have him build you a real motor, so you can come on down and show us all your mad racing skills. If you're half as good as you think you are, you'll win enough to cover the cost of the motor in the first month you're here, after that, it's all profit. Just think, you can be fabulously wealthy, and show us all how it's done, too. After all, the rest of us don't have your skills, and don't know it's "just a glorified bracket race".

Now, "Crate Camaro" and any number of others who like crate motors, I can at least have some measure of respect for, carry on a decent discussion with, and agree to disagree. You, on the other hand, well, you bring nothing to the discussion, you rank somewhere between "minor amusement", and "minor annoyance". The only reason to reply to your attempts to insult anyone are to watch you throw your little tantrums and lick the windows. I gotta think that somewhere in Canada, a village is missing its idiot. Keep the faith sunshine, you're just special, don't let anyone tell you different.

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

My, my, my, ain't you just cute? Such venom and vitriol, you bring so much to the conversation. At least, you think you do. There ain't no "we", there's us, and there's you. NHRA draws about 3 times the car count that IHRA does. Not that I'm any real fan of NHRA, nor do I have any dislike at all for IHRA. Tell us again how you crate motor boys are going to save our class.

You know, as bad as you think you are, as much as you think you can prove to us, since obviously none of us has any reason to come up there, just call up your fellow Canadian, John Armstrong, and have him build you a real motor, so you can come on down and show us all your mad racing skills. If you're half as good as you think you are, you'll win enough to cover the cost of the motor in the first month you're here, after that, it's all profit. Just think, you can be fabulously wealthy, and show us all how it's done, too. After all, the rest of us don't have your skills, and don't know it's "just a glorified bracket race".

Now, "Crate Camaro" and any number of others who like crate motors, I can at least have some measure of respect for, carry on a decent discussion with, and agree to disagree. You, on the other hand, well, you bring nothing to the discussion, you rank somewhere between "minor amusement", and "minor annoyance". The only reason to reply to your attempts to insult anyone are to watch you throw your little tantrums and lick the windows. I gotta think that somewhere in Canada, a village is missing its idiot. Keep the faith sunshine, you're just special, don't let anyone tell you different.

Dammit Alan, I just spit diet coke all over my keyboard.

[Ed Wright]

Very good Alan. LMAO

[dragracer502]

thank you guys,
I new I could count on being able to wind you all up in 1 post or less. Crate Camaro, you owe me a beer (and thank god its a real Canadian one!). Thank you for reminding me how glad I am I live in a country where the default answer to any argument is NOT "god bless america". I will leave you with this last comforting thought......NHRA will never bring in Crate motor stockers just because IHRA started the class and we all know the mighty NHRA will never adopt a class started in the IHRA, right? I mean iits not like thats ever happened before.......just take Pro mod for example..........oh well never mind.

[Bob Pagano]

If you want respect post with your real name not some bull crap. I have many friends in Canada over the years starting with Pete Fedun but they are all class guys. Where do you fit in ?

[CrateCamaro]

Originally Posted by Bob Pagano

If you want respect post with your real name not some bull crap. I have many friends in Canada over the years starting with Pete Fedun but they are all class guys. Where do you fit in ?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Not going to play the name drop game. Cant wait to get home and make this a 100+ post thread. You guys are so lost and uninformed its crazy. Us crate motor guys have part numbers to follow just like you....i make reference to part numbers because thats your whole life...part numbers. I bet I could ask all of your wifes and or kids what part number intake you run on your stocker because they would definitly know from years of talking about different casting numbers and BS. You call me and my crate a bracket car when you are all so lost in the big picture that you actually have a bracket car as well...its a bracket race with a 30x9 tire and some rules. Give it up.

Wow all your ego's and must have really been hurt when NHRA moved all the index's up...heck what will you tell your grandchilden..."ohh grandpa's car used to go 1 under the index but now it can only go .7 under the index". No wonder kids are screwed up and turn to drugs and drive imports. You think the 14 year old kid in the stands watching you old clowns race knows what a max wedge car is? You think he can tell the difference between a 375hp camaro and a 330hp camaro? The only way he could tell is when his daddy says...hey see the one that wheelstands the farthest....thats one of those 330hp small block crate motors

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by CrateCamaro

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Not going to play the name drop game. Cant wait to get home and make this a 100+ post thread. You guys are so lost and uninformed its crazy. Us crate motor guys have part numbers to follow just like you....i make reference to part numbers because thats your whole life...part numbers. I bet I could ask all of your wifes and or kids what part number intake you run on your stocker because they would definitly know from years of talking about different casting numbers and BS. You call me and my crate a bracket car when you are all so lost in the big picture that you actually have a bracket car as well...its a bracket race with a 30x9 tire and some rules. Give it up.

Wow all your ego's and must have really been hurt when NHRA moved all the index's up...heck what will you tell your grandchilden..."ohh grandpa's car used to go 1 under the index but now it can only go .7 under the index". No wonder kids are screwed up and turn to drugs and drive imports. You think the 14 year old kid in the stands watching you old clowns race knows what a max wedge car is? You think he car tell the difference between a 375hp camaro and a 330hp camaro? The only way he could tell is when his daddy says...hey see the one in that wheelstands the farthest....thats one of those 330hp small block crate motors

i doubt you can out wheelstand some of the 427/396 camaros. Hell i know of one orange 69 camaro that i KNOW you can't out wheelstand.

[Ed Fernandez]

Don't like the rule structure?Stay the f*ck up in Canada and have fun with your bracket car.We try to give a civil conversation and you both admit you just wanted to stir the $****.
a$$holes like you two give some a bad view if Canada.Mybe you should spend time
rolling the stone in the exciting game of curling.
Those jr dragster kids are waiting to kick Mr F Bombs ***** if he has the balls to venture into the real world.

[Ed Wright]

Ed, you really need to come out of your shell, and say what you really think. LMAO!

[CrateCamaro]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Don't like the rule structure?Stay the f*ck up in Canada and have fun with your bracket car.We try to give a civil conversation and you both admit you just wanted to stir the $****.
a$$holes like you two give some a bad view if Canada.Mybe you should spend time
rolling the stone in the exciting game of curling.
Those jr dragster kids are waiting to kick Mr F Bombs ***** if he has the balls to venture into the real world.

Who said anything about the rule structure? We race the same rules you do...there is a section in the IHRA rulebook that is for cratemotor and it gives the weight breaks, intake rule, carb rule, and everythink else is the same for STOCK. Im not here to sturr the pot im here to maybe get this through your thick scull...There is no difference between your stocker an my stocker...they are both stock eliminator cars...mine has a "replacement engine"...better known as a crate motor if you didnt know already and it is no different then a 350/295hp stocker combo....its the same thing, built the same, runs the same, sounds the same...bla bla bla. You think that this is some kid of witchcraft?