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Old 04-19-2011, 06:25 PM   #51
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There is no rule for permanent ballast in Stock Eliminator. General Regulations set ballast limit at 500 pounds. With a shipping weigh of 3240, the CJ would have to be rated at 499 horsepower for the general ballast rule to take effect. That is, if the car is naturally 3240 pounds.
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Old 04-19-2011, 06:31 PM   #52
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The way the CJ will get kicked out of Stock is the added ballast rule. Since a car can vary only a certain amount from its shipping weight, if the HP factor becomes so high that in order for the CJ to make class weight at 7.5 # per HP, it has to add more weight than the rules allow, it can no longer run Stock.
if so its going to take one more hit
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Old 04-19-2011, 06:50 PM   #53
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Old 04-19-2011, 06:55 PM   #54
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There is no rule for permanent ballast in Stock Eliminator. General Regulations set ballast limit at 500 pounds. With a shipping weigh of 3240, the CJ would have to be rated at 499 horsepower for the general ballast rule to take effect. That is, if the car is naturally 3240 pounds.

Mike, you are correct. I thought I remembered a rule being in effect at one time that the weight variance was a maximum of +/- 250 pounds from the shipping weight. Either I remember wrong, or the rule has been rescinded.
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Old 04-19-2011, 07:04 PM   #55
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I think I did well in first grade math. It's going to take 2 hits at 3.25% for the stick combination and 4 or 5 for the automatic.
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Old 04-19-2011, 07:05 PM   #56
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To all of the keyboard racers who are constantly complaining about the Ford and Mopar horsepower ratings, do you believe that the GM racers that have cheated over the years by using acid ported cylinder heads, siamese cylinder blocks before they were legal,combustion chamber mods that were bogus, and superceded intakes are worthy of the same respect that you don't think the Ford and Mopar racers deserve because of the so called bogus horsepower ratings. There seems to be a double standard because it is okay for acid ported cylinder heads but those Fords and Mopars better have the right horsepower rating. After 40 years of guys cheating and then NHRA changes the rules that cost me more money to update my race car , I think it is funny that the shoe is on the other foot for a change. Maybe some will just have to adapt. Also something many forget about the ballast rule is that all a racer has to do is add street equipment normally taken off the car for racing purposes such as windshield wipers and washers, heaters and air conditioning, front sway bar, spare tire, wiring harneses, back seats and so forth that is extra weight but not considered ballast.
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Old 04-19-2011, 07:23 PM   #57
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To all of the keyboard racers who are constantly complaining about the Ford and Mopar horsepower ratings, do you believe that the GM racers that have cheated over the years by using acid ported cylinder heads, siamese cylinder blocks before they were legal,combustion chamber mods that were bogus, and superceded intakes are worthy of the same respect that you don't think the Ford and Mopar racers deserve because of the so called bogus horsepower ratings. There seems to be a double standard because it is okay for acid ported cylinder heads but those Fords and Mopars better have the right horsepower rating. After 40 years of guys cheating and then NHRA changes the rules that cost me more money to update my race car , I think it is funny that the shoe is on the other foot for a change. Maybe some will just have to adapt. Also something many forget about the ballast rule is that all a racer has to do is add street equipment normally taken off the car for racing purposes such as windshield wipers and washers, heaters and air conditioning, front sway bar, spare tire, wiring harneses, back seats and so forth that is extra weight but not considered ballast.
Yeah, because GM racers are the only ones to have ever been guilty of acid porting, bogus pistons, moving valve seats in heads, or anything of the sort. Ford and Mopar racers are surely above such atrocities. Did you even read that before you posted it?
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Old 04-19-2011, 07:35 PM   #58
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The 500 lbs is above the shipping weight, right? Unrelated to the car being heavy due to being a fully loaded street car (AC, etc)?

The rest of it, seriously?
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Old 04-19-2011, 07:35 PM   #59
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Bruce Noland was right.
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