Back from Indy-what's happened to Stock Eliminator??

[Jim Kaekel]

Originally Posted by chassis1

How do you ever expect Class racing to move on if you do not appeal to the next generation? Money or not, most kids do not know anything about carbs or distributors. But they do know how to lap top tune and injector tables and maps.
All the whine and cheese here. Why not just get another hobby. Most of you do not even know what it is like to be a fan and not be able to participate. But yet you load up and be there days early why the average fan works his knuckle to the bones to afford to come and watch you race. You have all priviledges and others only dream to have something old or new.....
take it all for granite as others are happy that new cars appeal to the younger guys to keep it alive....
they could always go home and play x-box and Black Ops.....

BE THANKFUL!!!!!!.......others that you do not know thank YOU!!!!!! old or new cars..

Chassis1

A lot of opinion here. Do you even race in Stock or Super Stock? For having such a bold opinion of real racers, why don't you sign your REAL NAME?

[NWDragracing]

Originally Posted by Jim Kaekel

A lot of opinion here. Do you even race in Stock or Super Stock? For having such a bold opinion of real racers, why don't you sign your REAL NAME?

Jim,

Wes is a racer, engine builder and also the owner of Pro Header Systems and I think he has been racing a way bit longer in the Stock/Super Stock ranks than you.

http://proheadersystems.com/default.asp

[Jim Kaekel]

Originally Posted by NWDragracing

Jim,

Wes is a racer, engine builder and also the owner of Pro Header Systems and I think he has been racing a way bit longer in the Stock/Super Stock ranks than you.

http://proheadersystems.com/default.asp

Wes should still sign his name if he wants any credibility to be given. For your info, I'm 52 and have been racing since '81. Began NHRA LODRS racing in '91.

[BlueOval Ralph]

This has been said again and again and again!!!! Quickest wasy to fix is to BRING BACK EFI CLASSES!!!!

[danny waters sr]

Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

This has been said again and again and again!!!! Quickest wasy to fix is to BRING BACK EFI CLASSES!!!!

I agree with you 100% and i am not talking about you personally , just a comment and opinion.....

Most of you all look down on IHRA ,but at least they did exactly that and on top of that they have a EFI class for all 2008 and newer cars (example AA/FI , BB/FI , and so on if needed) so's they don't take advantage of the older irons.
Which leaves all the older cars still competitive and a place to race without having to worry to much about heads - up with the new cars...

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by danny waters sr

I agree with you 100% and i am not talking about you personally , just a comment and opinion.....

Most of you all look down on IHRA ,but at least they did exactly that and on top of that they have a EFI class for all 2008 and newer cars (example AA/FI , BB/FI , and so on if needed) so's they don't take advantage of the older irons.
Which leaves all the older cars still competitive and a place to race without having to worry to much about heads - up with the new cars...

Save your typing fingers Danny......Most hard core NHRA racers would quit before they would race with IHRA. They just prefer getting their heads beat in by the new cars better I guess. Its an ego trip for them anyway. Ever notice they will travel 2000+ miles to race NHRA but wont go across the street to run an IHRA race. By the way....I have my membership and car number for stock. Hope to be knocking heads with you soon.....LOL. Keep the A/C in good working order in your motor home.

[danny waters sr]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Save your typing fingers Danny......Most hard core NHRA racers would quit before they would race with IHRA. They just prefer getting their heads beat in by the new cars better I guess. Its an ego trip for them anyway. Ever notice they will travel 2000+ miles to race NHRA but wont go across the street to run an IHRA race. By the way....I have my membership and car number for stock. Hope to be knocking heads with you soon.....LOL. Keep the A/C in good working order in your motor home.

Come on in ,the waters fine and the A/C will be working. Getting ready to leave for Darlington in just a little while.Trying to tune my junk up so i can battle with Owen Burkette if he comes in L/SA......I need to take the heater ,wipers and blower fan motor off and a few other things so's i can use my weight box....lol, then i won't be able to cruise on the street.;

[Harry 6674]

This is the way I would handle it if I were king. I would not give the new cars their own class. Thats weak. I would factor the cars correctly first. That would set the factors for AA-C then I would move the other cars down. The cj's and dp's are the fastest cars out there so they would make up the higher classes. Sorry but the 69 427/396 camaros would no longer be in the highest class. As far as the new cars not being street legal that argument is bogus. The cars are available from the factory with the engines offered so the crate motor argument is also bogus. IHRA has the real crate motor classes. So thats it just factor correctly. If it takes 5 lb to make AA so be it. I don't know what kind of power ths new cj's put out but it has to be 750 plus so that would be a good place to start.

[Paul Precht]

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

This is the way I would handle it if I were king. I would not give the new cars their own class. Thats weak. I would factor the cars correctly first. That would set the factors for AA-C then I would move the other cars down. The cj's and dp's are the fastest cars out there so they would make up the higher classes. Sorry but the 69 427/396 camaros would no longer be in the highest class. As far as the new cars not being street legal that argument is bogus. The cars are available from the factory with the engines offered so the crate motor argument is also bogus. IHRA has the real crate motor classes. So thats it just factor correctly. If it takes 5 lb to make AA so be it. I don't know what kind of power ths new cj's put out but it has to be 750 plus so that would be a good place to start.

One of the Cobras went almost 145 mph in 90 degree heat with a low baro, WOW.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

This is the way I would handle it if I were king. I would not give the new cars their own class. Thats weak. I would factor the cars correctly first. That would set the factors for AA-C then I would move the other cars down. The cj's and dp's are the fastest cars out there so they would make up the higher classes. Sorry but the 69 427/396 camaros would no longer be in the highest class. As far as the new cars not being street legal that argument is bogus. The cars are available from the factory with the engines offered so the crate motor argument is also bogus. IHRA has the real crate motor classes. So thats it just factor correctly. If it takes 5 lb to make AA so be it. I don't know what kind of power ths new cj's put out but it has to be 750 plus so that would be a good place to start.

Quote Harry:The cars are available from the factory with the engines offered so the crate motor argument is also bogus.

Not so.The early DPs were delivered to you with a (I believe) caravan axle in place of the rear,a trans that was a core sent back to Chrysler with no innards,no driveshaft.
Now my little gremlin was driven home from the dealership and toiled on the streets of NYC for 125,000 miles.Not that's showroom available to the public.
NHRA doesn't need crate motors,they can (well used to before our present conditions,both economic and internal,as in NHRA buffoonery).IHRA added them for survival of the org.