lOOKING FOR SPEC'S 302/215@240

[Alex Denysenko]

Gary,
The 215 engine does not come with GT-40P heads.
E7TE heads.
It is based on a 92-93 motor with hyperutectic pistons and a .445 lift cam.
Explorer engines had the GT-40P heads.
Olin ran the 215 HP with the correct E7TE heads.
He may have upgraded the motor to 270 specs at a later time.
I have not spoken to him in a while.
His car is a 65 Mustang not a 68.

Chris,

No problem, just let me know.

[goinbroke2]

Wow, ask and ye shall receive!

I've been running the spec's through a couple computor programs and the 215hp should run about -.400 under index...well as much as you can trust a computor. That was basically a stock 5.0 with a 750 and my mustang as it is. 4.86 gear/29.5X9/c4 with 3500 converter. With this combo my 4.86's seem too low and according to the computor 4.56's or even 4.11's seem quicker. Problem is, it shows the 750 better than a 650 and a single plane intake better than a dual plane. As we all know, a stock engine like that would benefit more from a dual plane intake and a smaller carb so I'm kind of skeptical.

How did other's make out with this combo? Was it a slug or am I on the right path? And yes -.400 seems optimistic, that's why I'm doubtful it's that good out of the box.

Thanks again,
GB2

[G PETERSON RACING]

Alex I know he had the gt40p heads the last time I saw him run his car at Rockingham. He sat the record and had to tear down. I saw the engine apart and they were the gt40p. I guess I thought it was the 215 engine. I never did run that engine so really never looked at the spec's.
Goinbroke, with the 270/250 combo I had the 4.88's,c4, 750 carb, Victor Jr.,ATI4200 convertor and 30x9 Hooiser Radials. Could run 1.00+ under eight mile, 1.30 under quarter mile. Did a lot of testing with cam timing, carbs, and intakes, rear gears and this setup was the fastest. Good luck, Gary Peterson

[goinbroke2]

Thanks Gary! Just as easy to pick up an explorer engine as a mustang engine to start with I suppose. I know I'll be nowhere near that as my car isn't "scienced out" like a real stocker. That's certainly encouraging though!

One other question then, were you running aftermarket rods/pistons or stock? (and how high were you twisting it)?

[Alex Denysenko]

George Wright debut with 302-215





Sat, 4 Nov 2000, 02:22 PM

ROCKINGHAM - Earl's Stock Qualifying, Session #3 Order





ROCKINGHAM, N.C. - Order after 3 rounds of qualifying in Earl's Stock at the Second annual CARQUEST Autumn Nationals:

Psn--Num--Class-Driver, Home Town, Machine-----------------ET---Index---(+/-)

1 39501 M/CM George Wright, Carleton MI, '90 Probe 11.423 13.10 -1.677
2 1-9924 M/SA Bud Rowe, Bridgeton NC, '85 Camaro 11.918 13.15 -1.232
3 1-9067 D/CM Mike Adams, Garner NC, '67 Nova 10.538 11.75 -1.212
4 135 D/SA Bill Hawk, Manassas VA, '67 Shelby 10.683 11.85 -1.167
5 2011 L/SA Randy Parker, Four Oaks NC, '85 Camaro 11.897 13.05 -1.153
6 1923 K/SA Greg Rowe, Bridgeton NC, '90 Camaro 11.842 12.95 -1.108
7 19323 G/SA Garry Glazener, Jackson SC, '72 Mustang 11.198 12.30 -1.102
8 4 G/CM Paul Crowe, Winchester KY, '81 Malibu 11.120 12.20 -1.080
9 1-9909 K/SA Mark Lewis, Inman SC, '74 Nova 11.872 12.95 -1.078
10 1-9977 F/CM Greg Sasser, Grifton NC, '86 Camaro 10.981 12.05 -1.069
11 1-9032 B/SA Jack Zimmerman, Clemmons NC, '71 Challen 10.504 11.55 -1.046
12 2-9243 N/SA Jim Woods, Kissimmee FL, '77 Regency 12.270 13.30 -1.030
13 3 K/CM Myron Piatek, Holly Hill FL, '76 Duster 11.782 12.80 -1.018
14 7 E/CM Ricky Clark, New Haven KY, '94 Camaro 10.883 11.90 -1.017
15 1033 K/SA Dave Ribeiro, Williamsburg VA, '78 Fireb 11.936 12.95 -1.014
16 1-9040 K/CM Carr Gibson, Lumberton NC, '80 Volare 11.825 12.80 -0.975
17 1-9706 Y/S Tom Gould, Woodbridge VA, '66 Corvair 15.179 16.15 -0.971
18 1-9222 I/CM Hillarey Sloan, Sanford NC, '71 Duster 11.546 12.50 -0.954
19 1-9769 C/CM Nick Smallwood, Delbarton WV, '77 Vega 10.659 11.60 -0.941
20 10 O/SA David Mercer, Benton IL, '89 Mustang 12.532 13.45 -0.918
21 1-9927 S/GTG Robbie Batten, Wilson NC, '85 Camaro 11.286 12.20 -0.914
22 1-9749 J/CM Randy Tatman, Lawndale NC, '65 Coronet 11.738 12.65 -0.912
23 5 F/CM Mark Beaver, Shelby NC, '97 Mustang 11.181 12.05 -0.869
24 6 F/CM Mike Morris, New Haven KY, '66 Chevelle 11.184 12.05 -0.866
25 3049 E/SA Jack Treola, Charleston WV, '68 Firebird 11.147 12.00 -0.853
26 4782 B/SA Steven Hall, Sweeny TX, '68 Mustang 10.707 11.55 -0.843
27 3-9368 I/S Denny Hillman, Indianapolis IN, '67 Cama 11.677 12.50 -0.823
28 9561 B/SA Gene Jordan, Reidsville NC, '69 Camaro 10.735 11.55 -0.815
29 9262 F/S Scott Bailey, Seffner FL, '71 Mustang 11.327 12.10 -0.773
30 1-9707 I/SA Mickey Whaley, Kinston NC, '69 Camaro 11.840 12.60 -0.760
31 1-9167 H/CM Clif Smallwood, Dorton KY, '79 Malibu Wgn11.599 12.35 -0.751
32 1525 H/SA Michael Martin, Sophia NC, '72 Demon 11.720 12.45 -0.730
33 1-9668 G/SA Philip Hilling, Kinston NC, '68 Camaro 11.592 12.30 -0.708
34 1-9953 F/SA Curtis Smith, Clinton NC, '67 Camaro 11.446 12.15 -0.704
35 1-9275 S/GTH Duan Eiskant II, Alexandria VA, '86 Must 11.597 12.30 -0.703
36 9020 G/SA Brenda Grubbs, Matthews NC, '69 Camaro 11.617 12.30 -0.683
37 1-9279 G/CM Geoff Turk, Clayton NC, '73 Road Runner 11.550 12.20 -0.650
38 1-9013 N/PS Frank Kreiner, Kernersville NC, '86 Must 13.603 14.25 -0.647
39 1-9867 D/SA Kenny Koonce Jr, LaGrange NC, '69 Camaro 11.219 11.85 -0.631
40 19230 G/SA Scott Welborn, West Columbia SC, '68 Che 11.698 12.30 -0.602
41 9039 G/S John Gibson, Jacksonville NC, '96 Mustang11.615 12.20 -0.585
42 2-9370 L/PS Bobby Butler, Sevierville TN, '93 Mustang13.426 14.00 -0.574
43 1-9710 D/CM Allen Lambert, Johns Island SC, '67 Cama 11.177 11.75 -0.573
44 1-9958 G/SA Junior Riner, Autryville NC, '69 Nova 11.736 12.30 -0.564
45 1-9456 H/CM Robert Ayers, Ahoskie NC, '85 Camaro 11.793 12.35 -0.557
46 1 B/CM Monty Bogan Jr, Jonesville SC, '69 Camaro10.905 11.45 -0.545
47 3-9553 B/SA Paul Marcum, Pataskala OH, '70 Challenger11.014 11.55 -0.536
48 1-9363 C/SA William Lofton, Pleasant Garden NC, '69 11.180 11.70 -0.520
49 1-9208 M/CM Raymond Roland, Cayce SC, '72 Maverick 12.659 13.10 -0.441
50 3-9022 I/CM Bob Marshall, Columbus OH, '73 Dart 12.084 12.50 -0.416
51 1-9779 K/CM Chuck Carmack, Wilmington NC, '79 Malibu 12.395 12.80 -0.405
52 1-9002 J/CM Marty McNeill, Sanford NC, '85 Monte Car 12.247 12.65 -0.403
53 3-9117 K/SA Eric Wilkerson, Seymour IN, '72 Skylark 12.562 12.95 -0.388
54 1-9800 CT/SA Fred Martin, Mt. Pleasant SC, '99 F150 12.880 13.25 -0.370
55 9613 SGTL Randall Campbell, Gray KY, '81 Malibu Wgn12.632 13.00 -0.368
56 8 S/GTI Stacie Ridings, Columbus NC, '86 Camaro 12.155 12.50 -0.345
57 4-9885 F/CM Larry Cummings, Hammond LA, '69 Camaro 11.717 12.05 -0.333
58 1-9806 S/GTM Emily Stott, Columbus NC, '81 Malibu 12.820 13.15 -0.330
59 2-9903 M/PS Ray Grice, Aiken SC, '90 Mustang 13.844 14.15 -0.306
60 1-9035 H/CM Harold Gault, Pacolet Mills SC, '69 Nova 12.075 12.35 -0.275
61 1-9788 N/SA Gary Peterson, Sophia NC, '94 Mustang 13.157 13.30 -0.143
62 1-9031 E/SA Ronnie Hamlin, Fuquay-Varina NC, '71 Dus 11.896 12.00 -0.104
63 1-9313 M/S Tom Hemmingson, Concord NC, '66 Chevelle 16.329 13.15 3.179
64 3-9888 OPS Eric Patton, Morningview KY, '86 Mustang DQ
65 2221 K/SA Richard Mace, Jacksonville FL, '85 Camaro DQ
66 19015 H/SA Robert Draughon, Fayetteville NC, '69 Ca DQ
67 4-9783 B/SA Rusty Hall, Sweeny TX, '68 Mustang DQ

[Alex Denysenko]

Olin with what I believe was the 302-215 combo.

Sat, 19 Oct 2002, 01:59 PM

Stock Qualifying, Final Order





ROCKINGHAM, N.C. - Final order after 3 rounds of qualifying in Earl's Stock at the Hooters IHRA Drag Racing Series, Seventh annual CARQUEST Auto Parts World Finals:



Psn--Num--Class-Driver, Home Town, Machine-----------------ET---Index---(+/-)

1 902 X/SA Tim Griffith, Cedar Bluff VA, '65 Corone 14.608 16.25 -1.642
2 2897 L/CM Olin Welborn, Aiken SC, '65 Mustang 11.515 12.90 -1.385
3 999 H/CM Mike Petrie, Union SC, '68 Camaro 10.922 12.30 -1.378
4 3019 G/SA Mitch Kight, Durham NC, '73 Duster 10.955 12.30 -1.345
5 92 A/CM Terry Taylor, Lumberton NC, '71 Nova 9.906 11.25 -1.344
6 1350 G/SA Tex Miller, Fayetteville PA, '72 Mustang 10.965 12.30 -1.335
7 9927 F/CM Robbie Batten, Wilson NC, '85 Camaro 10.673 12.00 -1.327
8 4044 ET/SA Joey Teuton, Houma LA, '97 Ram 11.935 13.20 -1.265
9 95 H/CM Hillary Sloan-Thomas, Broadway NC, '71 D 11.072 12.30 -1.228
10 9455 D/SA Jason Line, Terrell NC, '70 Grand Sport 10.627 11.85 -1.223
11 9977 I/SA Greg Sasser, Grifton NC, '86 Camaro 11.386 12.60 -1.214
12 1131 D/SA Sterling Simmons Jr, Midlothian VA, '97 10.641 11.85 -1.209
13 97 I/CM Kevin Shipmon, Burlington NC, '74 Duster 11.245 12.45 -1.205
14 4783 B/SA Rusty Hall, Sweeny TX, '68 Mustang 10.346 11.55 -1.204
15 1841 G/PS Rick Golliday, Falling Waters WV, '69 Ca 12.954 14.15 -1.196
16 4784 B/SA Chris Farley, W. Columbia TX, '92 Mustang10.360 11.55 -1.190
17 500 C/CM Dave Duell, Evansville IN, '68 Barracuda 10.228 11.40 -1.172
18 1633 E/SA Lincoln Morehead, Newburgh NY, '97 Fireb 10.829 12.00 -1.171
19 9 B/CM Larry Cummings, Hammond LA, '67 Nova 10.386 11.55 -1.164
20 1360 H/CM Terry Knott, Beaver PA, '73 Dart 11.140 12.30 -1.160
21 910 D/CM Billy Plage, Sophia NC, '82 Camaro 10.541 11.70 -1.159
22 904 G/SA Scott Welborn, W. Columbia SC, '68 Cheve 11.142 12.30 -1.158
23 1557 B/SA Fred Thibeault, Middleton NS, '69 Camaro 10.395 11.55 -1.155
24 9104 E/CM Jeff Underwood, Four Oaks NC, '86 Camaro 10.703 11.85 -1.147
25 1151 F/SA Ronald Urquhart, Chesterfield VA, '68 Ca 11.009 12.15 -1.141
26 2011 L/SA Donald Webb, Four Oaks NC, '85 Camaro 11.913 13.05 -1.137
27 9310 E/CM Tim Rollins, Sanford NC, '87 Camaro 10.729 11.85 -1.121
28 302 C/FCM George Wright, Carleton MI, '90 Probe 11.136 12.25 -1.114
29 9111 D/CM Steve Lucas, Goldsboro NC, '68 Camaro 10.590 11.70 -1.110
30 909 J/SA Mark Lewis, Inman SC, '73 Nova 11.650 12.75 -1.100
31 1033 K/SA Dave Ribeiro, Williamsburg VA, '78 Fireb 11.857 12.95 -1.093
32 1973 E/CM Tank Crosswhite, Glade Spring VA, '73 Du 10.763 11.85 -1.087
33 39 E/CM Denise Marcum, Pataskala OH, '73 Dart 10.768 11.85 -1.082
34 984 D/CM Joe Helms, Lynchburg VA, '84 Camaro 10.633 11.70 -1.067
35 2189 D/SA Harold Culpepper, Pine Mtn Valley GA, '9 10.795 11.85 -1.055
36 4705 D/SA Bobby Brannon, Bossier City LA, '98 Fire 10.832 11.85 -1.018
37 2466 G/SA Gale Pinkston, Shelbyville TN, '67 Camaro11.288 12.30 -1.012
38 9208 M/CM Raymond Roland, Cayce SC, '72 Maverick 12.050 13.05 -1.000
39 916 D/SA Kenny Koonce Jr, Willow Spgs NC, '69 Cam 10.858 11.85 -0.992
40 9220 X/SA Larry Munk, Poquoson VA, '78 LeMans 15.264 16.25 -0.986
41 25 F/PS Bobby Butler, Sevierville TN, '93 Mustang12.865 13.85 -0.985
42 1352 GT/D Duane Eiskant II, Alexandria VA, '85 Mus 11.219 12.20 -0.981
43 34 M/S Brian Fain, Mt. Clare WV, '69 AMX 12.169 13.15 -0.981
44 4074 A/SA Jimmie Hutto Jr, Houston TX, '69 Camaro 10.328 11.30 -0.972
45 9426 A/SA Johnny Fisher, Raleigh NC, '70 Challenger10.329 11.30 -0.971
46 2710 P/SA Allen Lambert, Johns Island SC, '88 Cutl 12.780 13.75 -0.970
47 9952 H/SA Earl Smith, Clinton NC, '69 Camaro 11.492 12.45 -0.958
48 8 F/CM Ricky Clark, New Haven KY, '94 Camaro 11.050 12.00 -0.950
49 2032 B/SA Jack Zimmerman, Clemmons NC, '71 Challen 10.603 11.55 -0.947
50 151 L/SA Jim Harrington, Old Bridge NJ, '91 Camaro12.106 13.05 -0.944
51 9704 B/PS Walt Hollifield, Charlotte NC, '68 Fireb 11.722 12.65 -0.928
52 9706 X/S Tom Gould, Beaufort SC, '66 Corvair 15.042 15.95 -0.908
53 3 J/CM Myron Piatek, Holly Hill FL, '76 Dart 11.716 12.60 -0.884
54 9953 H/SA Curtis Smith, Clinton NC, '69 Chevy Nova 11.571 12.45 -0.879
55 2172 D/SA Bill Harris, Cleveland TN, '71 Mustang 10.980 11.85 -0.870
56 9181 O/SA James Hultberg, Hope Mills NC, '81 Trans 12.581 13.45 -0.869
57 969 H/SA Bobby Scott, Woodruff SC, '69 Nova 11.582 12.45 -0.868
58 1916 A/SA Jim Morgan, Conway SC, '64 Belvedere 10.440 11.30 -0.860
59 9332 K/S Rich Davis, Concord NC, '66 Nova 11.992 12.85 -0.858
60 2810 HF/SA Harry Morgan, Sunrise FL, '81 Escort 17.766 18.60 -0.834
61 1904 G/CM Carr Gibson, Lumberton NC, '78 Volare 11.317 12.15 -0.833
62 9012 K/CM Marty McNeill, Sanford NC, '85 Monte Car 11.932 12.75 -0.818
63 3473 G/CM Craig Marshall, Columbus OH, '79 Dart 11.341 12.15 -0.809
64 9788 M/CM Gary Peterson, Sophia NC, '95 Mustang 12.241 13.05 -0.809
65 3636 H/CM John McCormack, Oxford MI, '69 Dart 11.495 12.30 -0.805
66 934 B/PS Ronnie King, Pittsboro NC, '69 Mustang 11.847 12.65 -0.803
67 2209 K/SA Jorge Carnero, Miami FL, '78 Aspen 12.174 12.95 -0.776
68 949 H/SA Robert Ayers, Ahoskie NC, '69 Camaro 11.683 12.45 -0.767
69 2318 I/SA Dennis Pope, Kinston NC, '85 Camaro 11.843 12.60 -0.757
70 985 I/CM Gwendolyn Ayers, Akosie NC, '85 Camaro 11.722 12.45 -0.728
71 9911 I/CM Chip Johnson, Fayetteville NC, '79 Malib 11.728 12.45 -0.722
72 9091 H/SA Allen Britt, Clarkton NC, '69 Camaro 11.739 12.45 -0.711
73 9401 C/SA Donnie Moore Jr., Durham NC, '68 Mustang 11.065 11.70 -0.635
74 9043 GT/G Daren Poole-Adams, Shelby NC, '98 Firebi 12.579 13.15 -0.571
75 2896 G/SA Larry Ericksmoen, St. Petersburg FL, '69 11.735 12.30 -0.565
76 1 T/STK Monty Bogan Jr, Jonesville SC, '69 Camaro10.439 11.00 -0.561
77 1303 G/CM Lisa Bolton, Mechanicsville MD, '73 Dart 11.601 12.15 -0.549
78 360 GT/E Laverne Eberst, Chardon OH, '80 Volare 11.955 12.50 -0.545
79 9569 G/SA Corbitt Mashburn, Clinton NC, '69 Camaro 11.774 12.30 -0.526
80 9026 H/S Joe Collins, Castalia NC, '69 Camaro 11.798 12.30 -0.502
81 3988 H/PS Eric Patton, Morningview KY, '86 Mustang 13.911 14.40 -0.489
82 940 E/CM Shannon Waycaster, Gastonia NC, '81 Mali 11.401 11.85 -0.449
83 9891 H/CM Eddie Longhany Jr, Godwin NC, '67 Dart 11.862 12.30 -0.438
84 5891 G/CM Scotty Stillings, Indianapolis IN, '92 C 11.723 12.15 -0.427
85 10 I/CM Randy Tatman, Lawndale NC, '65 Coronet 12.064 12.45 -0.386
86 2005 E/SA Wesley Tucker, Lawrenceville GA, '68 Cam 11.621 12.00 -0.379
87 936 C/PS Brandon Jacobs, Fayetteville NC, '93 Cam 12.599 12.95 -0.351
88 9000 E/PS William Langston, Klenly NC, '83 Camaro 13.180 13.50 -0.320
89 36 A/SA Paul Marcum, Pataskala OH, '70 Challenger10.985 11.30 -0.315
90 9028 GT/E Stacie Ridings, Columbus NC, '86 Camaro 12.190 12.50 -0.310
91 3600 T/STK Truman Fields, Grafton OH, '68 Firebird 10.706 11.00 -0.294
92 911 G/CM Jamie Lucas, Goldsboro NC, '73 Camaro 11.857 12.15 -0.293
93 9724 L/SA Joe Huestis, Wake Forest NC, '85 Camaro 12.769 13.05 -0.281
94 998 E/PS Tommy Hussey, Kinston NC, '01 Mustang 13.233 13.50 -0.267
95 7 F/CM Rickey Morris, Ellenwood GA, '79 Malibu 11.784 12.00 -0.216
96 2333 CT/SA Grace Howell, Aiken SC, '99 F-150 12.969 13.05 -0.081
97 2999 D/SA Chip Moorefield, Knoxville TN, '70 Camaro11.804 11.85 -0.046
98 9561 A/SA Gene Jordan, Reidsville NC, '69 Camaro 11.491 11.30 0.191





Timing data courtesy of CompuLink

[G PETERSON RACING]

Alex, both of those car were fast. I see I was there in 2000 running N/SA when I first build the car. It was a stock engine with a Crane stocker cam and stock computer. When I was there in 2002 in M/CM I had the 285/265 engine with a stock short block and the 480 lift cam, Victor Jr. intake, and 650 carb.
Goinbroke, the last engine had Ross stock replacement piston, eagle h-rods, stock crank.
Hope this helps. Gary Peterson

[Chris1529]

I would run a 513 gear if i was running a 29.5 or 30" tire. I run 488 with 28" tires.


almack...thanks for posting the FRPP pages.

[ALMACK]

Originally Posted by Chris1529

I would run a 513 gear if i was running a 29.5 or 30" tire. I run 488 with 28" tires.


almack...thanks for posting the FRPP pages.

No problem Chris. Glad I could help.

This thread has got me thinking.

I went on IHRA's site and the 302/215 combo is not listed. I don't remember seeing it listed even in the horsepower adjustment page.
My question is whether or not that crate engine is still legal to run

If so, it would sure give me another choice of class to run with my '89 Coupe.
I could run it as a carb setup in CM or change the intake to EFI and run the EFI class.

[Alex Denysenko]

Originally Posted by ALMACK

No problem Chris. Glad I could help.

This thread has got me thinking.

I went on IHRA's site and the 302/215 combo is not listed. I don't remember seeing it listed even in the horsepower adjustment page.
My question is whether or not that crate engine is still legal to run

If so, it would sure give me another choice of class to run with my '89 Coupe.
I could run it as a carb setup in CM or change the intake to EFI and run the EFI class.

Here you go Alan,

You just didn't look far enough.



http://www.ihra.com/uploadedFiles/Co...orList_831.pdf