Time to Revisit the Super Times?

GaryGoFast · 12-11-2011, 06:34 PM

Does anyone think Index racing as presented in D2 now has a chance of being the future? Heads up racing , no stops, fast cars and dragsters would have their own index type scenario.

SimmerManiac · 12-11-2011, 07:08 PM

Non-electronic Index Classes and Fast Heads-Up classes are the future.

Indy RAGE at Lucas Oil Raceway in Indianapolis is most likely one of the best examples of what will work going forward.

The cost of growing any sport will either be carried by the fans or the particpants. Throttle Stops and bracket racing have given the luxury of carrying the financial burden of growth to the participants.

C and W Racing · 12-11-2011, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GaryGoFast

Does anyone think Index racing as presented in D2 now has a chance of being the future? Heads up racing , no stops, fast cars and dragsters would have their own index type scenario.

I don't think it will. As the year went on they had less and less in each class. How is it going to survive when each class probably averaged less than ten cars. I'm not doubting that it may be a challenge to dial your car, but that is where the problem will be. The ones that struggle to dial their car will stop going. Most everyone in the super classes can dial their car. Now it becomes cutting a light and driving the strip.
Chuck

Tom DePascale · 12-12-2011, 08:46 AM

Can't we get back to why Tommy D is ......xxxx
Ok Rock what does that mean !!!!!!!! Or I should not ask????Lol

C and W Racing · 12-12-2011, 09:16 AM

Tommy, I've been wondering the same thing. First throat surgery, Now multible hospital stays. Next year are you going to be Tammy De? lol
Chuck

CBS · 12-12-2011, 09:55 AM

Just trying not to beat the dead horse again.....

Speeding up the indexes would do what....make you feel better?.....Or just raise the speeds another 5 mph...and then everyone would complain how the speeds are out of hand and a limit needs to be put in place.....lol...not sure what your goal is with speeding up the indexes.....I just don't see it....we voted on it last year and it was voted down....

We have pretty good motors in our cars....and the dragster runs 186 at 890 and our car runs 168 at 990....how fast would they go at 8.00 and 9.00....don't even start with talking about increasing the spectator appeal...or participation....people just don't care about anything but fuel cars.....they hardly watch pro stock....and you're worried about not understanding the throttle stop racing.....

Chris...look what you started....lol

JThomas · 12-12-2011, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CBS

Just trying not to beat the dead horse again.....

Speeding up the indexes would do what....make you feel better?.....Or just raise the speeds another 5 mph...and then everyone would complain how the speeds are out of hand and a limit needs to be put in place.....lol...not sure what your goal is with speeding up the indexes.....I just don't see it....we voted on it last year and it was voted down....

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Not trying to be a smart *** but since you are a SRAC member, how long do you think the index should stay at 8.90 ? Forever ?

In 1985 when I started, a dragster that went 8.60-8.70 was a pretty quick car. At any bracket race you were either the fastest or close to it. Today an 8.70 dragster at a bracket race is not only the slowest dragster there it is also slower than 1/2 the door cars.

I agree that you will not get spectators even at a 6.90 index (now we're talking

). But how do you explain to a newbie you bring along to the races why that Mustang AAA/S stocker and many SS cars just went quicker than your dragster goes ?

A new 7.90 class will NEVER happen as the track operators want less payout not more. It would just be less S/C cars.

The result of the vote taken was that the majority of the S/C racers wanted the index lowered. They just did not agree on what to lower it to. The way that vote was presented, the outcome was determined before the vote was taken with 3 options.

So how long do we keep 8.90 ???

CBS · 12-12-2011, 12:55 PM

Why change it????

Because a stocker or super stocker can go that fast has nothing to do with Super Comp....

My vette is much more violent than my mustang but much slower in ET...so what.....is this an ego thing...(that wasn't a shot at you) but it just drives the cost and speed up....and its still the same...just quicker...

we have bigger issues like seat belts and window nets and the cost to go to the races in general....

Race in TD if you want to go fast....that's why it was brought on....

12-11-2011, 06:34 PM	#1
GaryGoFast Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Posts: 804 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Time to Revisit the Super Times? Does anyone think Index racing as presented in D2 now has a chance of being the future? Heads up racing , no stops, fast cars and dragsters would have their own index type scenario. __________________ Gary Federico S/St, S/G 1814

12-11-2011, 07:08 PM	#2
SimmerManiac Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 12 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Time to Revisit the Super Times? Non-electronic Index Classes and Fast Heads-Up classes are the future. Indy RAGE at Lucas Oil Raceway in Indianapolis is most likely one of the best examples of what will work going forward. The cost of growing any sport will either be carried by the fans or the particpants. Throttle Stops and bracket racing have given the luxury of carrying the financial burden of growth to the participants.

12-12-2011, 08:46 AM	#4
Tom DePascale Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sayreville NJ Posts: 471 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Time to Revisit the Super Times? Can't we get back to why Tommy D is ......xxxx Ok Rock what does that mean !!!!!!!! Or I should not ask????Lol

12-12-2011, 09:16 AM	#5
C and W Racing Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 557 Likes: 6 Liked 13 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Time to Revisit the Super Times? Tommy, I've been wondering the same thing. First throat surgery, Now multible hospital stays. Next year are you going to be Tammy De? lol Chuck Last edited by C and W Racing; 12-12-2011 at 09:19 AM.

12-12-2011, 09:55 AM	#6
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Time to Revisit the Super Times? Just trying not to beat the dead horse again..... Speeding up the indexes would do what....make you feel better?.....Or just raise the speeds another 5 mph...and then everyone would complain how the speeds are out of hand and a limit needs to be put in place.....lol...not sure what your goal is with speeding up the indexes.....I just don't see it....we voted on it last year and it was voted down.... We have pretty good motors in our cars....and the dragster runs 186 at 890 and our car runs 168 at 990....how fast would they go at 8.00 and 9.00....don't even start with talking about increasing the spectator appeal...or participation....people just don't care about anything but fuel cars.....they hardly watch pro stock....and you're worried about not understanding the throttle stop racing..... Chris...look what you started....lol

12-12-2011, 12:55 PM	#8
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Time to Revisit the Super Times? Why change it???? Because a stocker or super stocker can go that fast has nothing to do with Super Comp.... My vette is much more violent than my mustang but much slower in ET...so what.....is this an ego thing...(that wasn't a shot at you) but it just drives the cost and speed up....and its still the same...just quicker... we have bigger issues like seat belts and window nets and the cost to go to the races in general.... Race in TD if you want to go fast....that's why it was brought on....