2012 Horsepower Adjustments

Ron Ortiz · 12-21-2011, 11:17 AM

Yeah, I got horsepower taken off. Now I can go and take some weight out of the ballast box.
Seems like only yesterday, when I decided to, no, wait, it was in 2004 that I decided to take out all the extra weight I had in the wagon. Stripped it down to the bare minimum. Went to the inaugural Cajun Sportsnationals. Got there and was informed that I got horsepower from the week before due to new record being set. Had to put weight back in. No fun, this sucks.

But now I feel better, think I'll just leave the weight in since I will probably will need it to move around with my weight break, since I cannot move to any other class like others can do.

Maybe I'll just get to minimum weight, put some nitrous and a four barrel on it, get some head work and rollers rockers and go hunt down Bob Shaw's Caddy.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA look out bob

Chris1529 · 12-21-2011, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

Yeah, I got horsepower taken off. Now I can go and take some weight out of the ballast box.
Seems like only yesterday, when I decided to, no, wait, it was in 2004 that I decided to take out all the extra weight I had in the wagon. Stripped it down to the bare minimum. Went to the inaugural Cajun Sportsnationals. Got there and was informed that I got horsepower from the week before due to new record being set. Had to put weight back in. No fun, this sucks.

But now I feel better, think I'll just leave the weight in since I will probably will need it to move around with my weight break, since I cannot move to any other class like others can do.

Maybe I'll just get to minimum weight, put some nitrous and a four barrel on it, get some head work and rollers rockers and go hunt down Bob Shaw's Caddy.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA look out bob

new stock legal light weight seats would help you get to the minimum too.

jmcarter · 12-21-2011, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

Yeah, I got horsepower taken off. Now I can go and take some weight out of the ballast box.
Seems like only yesterday, when I decided to, no, wait, it was in 2004 that I decided to take out all the extra weight I had in the wagon. Stripped it down to the bare minimum. Went to the inaugural Cajun Sportsnationals. Got there and was informed that I got horsepower from the week before due to new record being set. Had to put weight back in. No fun, this sucks.

But now I feel better, think I'll just leave the weight in since I will probably will need it to move around with my weight break, since I cannot move to any other class like others can do.

Maybe I'll just get to minimum weight, put some nitrous and a four barrel on it, get some head work and rollers rockers and go hunt down Bob Shaw's Caddy.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA look out bob

Careful Ron, the Koopmans and the Class of 65 Car could be lurking....so you write the request to get hp off? I wish the U/SA revival of a few years ago would be "resurrected". Think it's a neat class!

Ron Ortiz · 12-21-2011, 03:15 PM

Chris1529, do they have the new light weight bench seats, don't like bucket seats as you can't put stuff next to you and you end up reaching down with your harness restricting you. Hey, it's a wagon, you gotta have some amenities.

jmcarter,
No I did not write anything to NHRA tech. I wrote once long time ago when the Buick of Lloyd MacKay set the record in R/SA, T/SA and U/SA. In the letter I had graphs, commentary, and grids comparing my combo to the Buicks, the '65 Dodges and Bob Dennis Olds Cutlass. The Dodges had 100 lbs more weight to carry as they had more cfm with their Stromberg vs my B & B. Then they changed where all of us were at the same weight for the top/bottom of the class breakdown, but they still had a cfm advantage.
The Buicks were self exclamatory with their advantages. And Bob Dennis car was 600 lbs lighter with a four barrel and questionable serial numbers. It was all on paper to decipher that there were indeed major differences, but nothing was done about it and I just continued running Bob for class.
So as you can see there is no reason for me to write NHRA about anything technically.
And now with the pre factored HP ratings from Ford with their Mustangs, now you really fast cars get an idea of what nonsense that I have been putting up with for years.
With HP taken off for me finally, only a couple of decades later, I can rejoice now that it really doesn't matter.
As far as the record being set and getting HP at Belle Rose, the nice thing was that Dick Moreland called prior to setting the record with Clayton Wright and informed me of what they were planning. They wanted to know if I objected, and if I did they were not going to go for it. My response was that it is a performance category and that they should go for it.

It really would be cool to get all the U/SA's together again, it was a blast. We did have four U/SA's at CFR in Orlando for a SSSSA race last year.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA I need 100 HP taken off

Tony Janes · 12-21-2011, 03:34 PM

Checking the class guide, I only find the stick car getting hp off. 165 to 162!

Ron Ortiz · 12-21-2011, 04:06 PM

Thanks Tony, I thought something was different. I am rated at 171 hp now. When I look in the classification guide I can only find 180hp rated at 165. Where can I find the HP rating page?
If what you say is true, then I am OK because I did not take any weight out yet, but I am inclined to still put nitrous in it.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA I am tired of weighting.

12-21-2011, 11:17 AM	#1
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 989 Likes: 35 Liked 317 Times in 103 Posts	Re: 2012 Horsepower Adjustments Yeah, I got horsepower taken off. Now I can go and take some weight out of the ballast box. Seems like only yesterday, when I decided to, no, wait, it was in 2004 that I decided to take out all the extra weight I had in the wagon. Stripped it down to the bare minimum. Went to the inaugural Cajun Sportsnationals. Got there and was informed that I got horsepower from the week before due to new record being set. Had to put weight back in. No fun, this sucks. But now I feel better, think I'll just leave the weight in since I will probably will need it to move around with my weight break, since I cannot move to any other class like others can do. Maybe I'll just get to minimum weight, put some nitrous and a four barrel on it, get some head work and rollers rockers and go hunt down Bob Shaw's Caddy. Ron Ortiz U/SA look out bob __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK

12-21-2011, 03:15 PM	#4
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 989 Likes: 35 Liked 317 Times in 103 Posts	Re: 2012 Horsepower Adjustments Chris1529, do they have the new light weight bench seats, don't like bucket seats as you can't put stuff next to you and you end up reaching down with your harness restricting you. Hey, it's a wagon, you gotta have some amenities. jmcarter, No I did not write anything to NHRA tech. I wrote once long time ago when the Buick of Lloyd MacKay set the record in R/SA, T/SA and U/SA. In the letter I had graphs, commentary, and grids comparing my combo to the Buicks, the '65 Dodges and Bob Dennis Olds Cutlass. The Dodges had 100 lbs more weight to carry as they had more cfm with their Stromberg vs my B & B. Then they changed where all of us were at the same weight for the top/bottom of the class breakdown, but they still had a cfm advantage. The Buicks were self exclamatory with their advantages. And Bob Dennis car was 600 lbs lighter with a four barrel and questionable serial numbers. It was all on paper to decipher that there were indeed major differences, but nothing was done about it and I just continued running Bob for class. So as you can see there is no reason for me to write NHRA about anything technically. And now with the pre factored HP ratings from Ford with their Mustangs, now you really fast cars get an idea of what nonsense that I have been putting up with for years. With HP taken off for me finally, only a couple of decades later, I can rejoice now that it really doesn't matter. As far as the record being set and getting HP at Belle Rose, the nice thing was that Dick Moreland called prior to setting the record with Clayton Wright and informed me of what they were planning. They wanted to know if I objected, and if I did they were not going to go for it. My response was that it is a performance category and that they should go for it. It really would be cool to get all the U/SA's together again, it was a blast. We did have four U/SA's at CFR in Orlando for a SSSSA race last year. Ron Ortiz U/SA I need 100 HP taken off __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK

12-21-2011, 03:34 PM	#5
Tony Janes Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Whittier, Ca Posts: 830 Likes: 94 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 2012 Horsepower Adjustments Checking the class guide, I only find the stick car getting hp off. 165 to 162! __________________ Tony Janes 7941 STK, SS

12-21-2011, 04:06 PM	#6
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 989 Likes: 35 Liked 317 Times in 103 Posts	Re: 2012 Horsepower Adjustments Thanks Tony, I thought something was different. I am rated at 171 hp now. When I look in the classification guide I can only find 180hp rated at 165. Where can I find the HP rating page? If what you say is true, then I am OK because I did not take any weight out yet, but I am inclined to still put nitrous in it. Ron Ortiz U/SA I am tired of weighting. __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK