It is time to change the Point System

[Stang_Bang]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

Re-read my comments again because your not following what I wrote.

I understand what you are saying, you select which races you are claming points at before the race, not improving points totals like the current system. I just don't see anything wrong with the current system. I am just saying just race, quit all the complaining.

[casper]

Outside of one race at her home track, and one trip to Denver , Jackie won the championship in one time zone . With only one out of division race , which didn't end up counting anyway. Thats a pretty good endorsement for the current system being fair.

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by casper

Outside of one race at her home track, and one trip to Denver , Jackie won the championship in one time zone . With only one out of division race , which didn't end up counting anyway. Thats a pretty good endorsement for the current system being fair.

Not taking anything away from her, but statistically, her championship is an anomaly. And I hope she repeats it in 2012!

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by Stang_Bang

I understand what you are saying, you select which races you are claming points at before the race, not improving points totals like the current system. I just don't see anything wrong with the current system. I am just saying just race, quit all the complaining.

Taking out the "pure luck" factor, if anybody would want to ever seriously chase the points then they are practically forced into chasing them all over the continent, all the while not getting even one extra point for excelling in performance.
Currently, those select few who have the ability to making a life out of chasing points have the added luxury of claiming their best races for the points fund. I have to admit, I would love such a pass that I could throw out my bad days.But just as in life, I believe we have the bad days and the best days to deal with.
While I agree that every racer out there has a chance of beating the best and winning a few National & Divisional events, If we had a poll, I gaurantee that the list would be pretty short on racers that feel they have a slim chance in hell on ever being a world champion. And it's only because of the logistics in roaming the continent.
Now if the rules changed to reflect points for excelling and the points were tallied intra-divisionally (and I don't know how that would work, somebody smarter than Don could figure that out), I would be one to chase after a championship. Presently, I have no desire as I know I can't win a championship given my family and work that keeps me grounded.

I'm all ears as to why the current system is so great...

[Stang_Bang]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

I'm all ears as to why the current system is so great...

If I really have to answer that then you did not pay attention to ANY of the points chases from this season. Santangelo having to win the Vegas race to win the world and he did, Jackie Alley passing Peter in vegas, and going into pomona still having a chance to get passed by bogner, so lets see that is a D-1 car a D-6 car and a D-5 car all with a shot at winning the world champoinship. It is like that every year in vegas, but since I have never seen you there maybe that is why you are missing out on it. And those are just 2 examples, S/G and Comp went down to the last race to decide the champions. There must be something in that Arizona water that you and Don are drinking because you guys come up with some off the wall ideas!! Don wants to change the points, then says he has no intentions on chasing the world, then why even waste peoples time and posting just to post? I don't know why I am suprised he does the same thing on FaceBook.

[Don Kennedy]

Originally Posted by Stang_Bang

If I really have to answer that then you did not pay attention to ANY of the points chases from this season. Santangelo having to win the Vegas race to win the world and he did, Jackie Alley passing Peter in vegas, and going into pomona still having a chance to get passed by bogner, so lets see that is a D-1 car a D-6 car and a D-5 car all with a shot at winning the world champoinship. It is like that every year in vegas, but since I have never seen you there maybe that is why you are missing out on it. And those are just 2 examples, S/G and Comp went down to the last race to decide the champions. There must be something in that Arizona water that you and Don are drinking because you guys come up with some off the wall ideas!! Don wants to change the points, then says he has no intentions on chasing the world, then why even waste peoples time and posting just to post? I don't know why I am suprised he does the same thing on FaceBook.

This is not about me so don't go there you are missing the whole point > it cost a lot of time and Money to chase points . we are not pros and don't need any kind of how exciting the points chase (Quite frankly no one cares especially NHRA) as the racers all had to spend a lot of money and time to win the lowly amount purse . I will admit when i was 18 I tried to deposit my ego in the bank and was turned down lol so the world chanpions just got their ego boosted which i understand but the amount of money to boost your ego is disgusting and most racers don't have the time and money by the way do your race ? and what kind of car do you have ?? just curious

I have found out when a person in a discussion has no merit they then begin to attack the person , so please back off and stay the course in this discussion lol

[Stang_Bang]

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

This is not about me so don't go there you are missing the whole point > it cost a lot of time and Money to chase points . we are not pros and don't need any kind of how exciting the points chase (Quite frankly no one cares especially NHRA) as the racers all had to spend a lot of money and time to win the lowly amount purse . I will admit when i was 18 I tried to deposit my ego in the bank and was turned down lol so the world chanpions just got their ego boosted which i understand but the amount of money to boost your ego is disgusting and most racers don't have the time and money by the way do your race ? and what kind of car do you have ?? just curious

I have found out when a person in a discussion has no merit they then begin to attack the person , so please back off and stay the course in this discussion lol

Just simply stating facts, if you are feeling attacked please forgive me. I could see asking for little points for breaking a record, maybe even for Qualifying (which is going to make HP ratings and bogus combos even more of a cry fest in here) but you guys want to change the whole system! Yes I do race, I have a 1968 mustang that I race in SS/FA. My name is RJ Torres. I believe we have met before a time or two Don LoL

[Jeff Lee]

Torres,
You still didn't answer the question. Why is it that anybody should take all the races they participated in and throw out the ones they did poorly in? If you (or anybody else) is such a great racer, claim the race before, not after. The current system forces one into racing more than they need to so they can throw out those bad days.
Like I said, call the race and take the points. And if your having a bad day, feel like your in a funk, don't think the car is up to the task or whatever, don't claim the race and wait for a better day.
And I really don't buy into the argument that the staging lanes are only half-full because of the economy. Maybe making a system such as Don & I suggest would bring more participation.
It's more interesting who has NOT commented on the subject...

[Don Kennedy]

Originally Posted by Stang_Bang

Just simply stating facts, if you are feeling attacked please forgive me. I could see asking for little points for breaking a record, maybe even for Qualifying (which is going to make HP ratings and bogus combos even more of a cry fest in here) but you guys want to change the whole system! Yes I do race, I have a 1968 mustang that I race in SS/FA. My name is RJ Torres. I believe we have met before a time or two Don LoL

RJ you turkey I knew it was you . How is your dad doing ? hope all is well, by the way don't forget to Vote LOL

[Hagen Gary]

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

AJ you turkey I knew it was you . How is your dad doing ? hope all is well, by the way don't forget to Vote LOL

For Obama I assume. Your idea falls right in line with his governing style. Reward people who do the Minimum. Take from the people who want to work for a championship. The way I see it, If I don't win a couple races early, I don't have any money or points to chase the Title anyway. The point system is fine, only change needed is to reward the top 3 Qualifiers with points. That would help the AHFS