The damage recently done

[Dwight Southerland]

Originally Posted by Lew Silverman

And I've been saying the same thing until I'm blue in the face! If the AMA is the "keeper of the specs", then open up the book to each and every vehicle that the Auto Manufacturers (foreign and domestic) made available to the general public for the last 20 years. You don't need to show any favoritism, you can keep the rules as liberal as you already have, and you just increased the number of competitors in our Eliminator.

Lew

That would be a fine goal except for the fact that the era when the AMA collected and published all the specifications for the members' offerings was short-lived and contained information that would be subject to high level debate and biased scrutiny, In fact, in its history the organization referred to as the AMA was reorganized several times, redefined several times, renamed several times and dissolved in 1999. Its the subject of a dicey history during all its existence. The real heyday was during WWII when the 654 manufacturers related to the automobile industry banded together to transform into a formidable war-machine manufacturing alliance. (George Romney was a major factor in making that happen.) Even with AMA specs, NHRA allowed Hydromatic transmissions behind fuel injected sedan deliveries, four-speed transmissions behind 2-barrel 283s and "enhanced" camshaft duration specs. The governing bodies are the major source of difficulty. What we may need every so often is a Jubilee, where all the enhancements are eradicated, all standards are re-established and let the chips fall regardless of whether or not individual people feel it is "fair". Fairness and judgment are sometimes fleeting and ethereal, definitely not Webster's definitions and mostly lip-service in Stock eliminator. The best effort that has been done to pacify the desire for fairness is shoe polish. All other efforts has been far less than satisfactory for a group of participants who think they are endowed with rights to be heard and attended to.

[Lew Silverman]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

That would be a fine goal except for the fact that the era when the AMA collected and published all the specifications for the members' offerings was short-lived and contained information that would be subject to high level debate and biased scrutiny, In fact, in its history the organization referred to as the AMA was reorganized several times, redefined several times, renamed several times and dissolved in 1999. Its the subject of a dicey history during all its existence. The real heyday was during WWII when the 654 manufacturers related to the automobile industry banded together to transform into a formidable war-machine manufacturing alliance. (George Romney was a major factor in making that happen.) Even with AMA specs, NHRA allowed Hydromatic transmissions behind fuel injected sedan deliveries, four-speed transmissions behind 2-barrel 283s and "enhanced" camshaft duration specs. The governing bodies are the major source of difficulty. What we may need every so often is a Jubilee, where all the enhancements are eradicated, all standards are re-established and let the chips fall regardless of whether or not individual people feel it is "fair". Fairness and judgment are sometimes fleeting and ethereal, definitely not Webster's definitions and mostly lip-service in Stock eliminator. The best effort that has been done to pacify the desire for fairness is shoe polish. All other efforts has been far less than satisfactory for a group of participants who think they are endowed with rights to be heard and attended to.

A very well thought out and written comment, Dwight! Thank you!

Lew

[BlueOval Ralph]

All this depened on if as a auto manuf you adjusted (published your own for NHRA) your AMA spec many did!

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

All this depened on if as a auto manuf you adjusted (published your own for NHRA) your AMA spec many did!

X2! The OEM's would consult with racers prior to submiting specs to NHRA.
Just like overlap on the Mopar Big Blocks; if I recall it was like 320 degrees in the spec sheet.

[Michael Beard]

Spy photo of the new Billy Nees Dime Rocket wood-gasifier and propane powered GMC truck. Think it fits V/SA...

[gmonde]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

Spy photo of the new Billy Nees Dime Rocket wood-gasifier and propane powered GMC truck. Think it fits V/SA...

ahhhh yes the picture is coming much clearer now ,,, lets do some research on that combo!!!!!!!! i want documanttion on the i.d of the tubing size ,,,,,,

[Marty Knox]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

Spy photo of the new Billy Nees Dime Rocket wood-gasifier and propane powered GMC truck. Think it fits V/SA...

Does each of those tubes count as a cylinder? If so, it can't run V/SA - I think there are more than 6!

[Michael Beard]

You should see the cost of the approved wood chips you have to burn in the gasifier to pass fuel check...

Originally Posted by Marty Knox

Does each of those tubes count as a cylinder? If so, it can't run V/SA - I think there are more than 6!

That's a sleeper combo!! 351 V6 ! Solid lifter cam ! Rated at 125 HP! Idles around 400 rpm. With the high flow 350 CFM Stromberg 2 barrel. He is going to build a 6 into 1 header for it! Now if we can get some paperwork for an over the counter 780 Holley , and aluminum intake we would be talking!

Having a picture of Billy without a hat, is like a picture of a Yetti! Very rare.

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

X2! The OEM's would consult with racers prior to submiting specs to NHRA.
Just like overlap on the Mopar Big Blocks; if I recall it was like 320 degrees in the spec sheet.

Pontiac started all of that. I'll bet engines ran real good with 320* of duration!