Aftermarket Cranks

[Jeff Teuton]

I was quietly drinking beer, and I get drug into this mess. I will be in E this year. I managed to get myself 'upped' a class. Don't know how I did that. I don't know about the FE or FD's or anything like that. If RJ and Blair are involved, then it's open range law. On the cranks, it just makes more available especially for some of the older cars. It's just gotta look like a stock crank and can't have the whole counterweight gone, and no knife edge. Did I miss something here. The good thing RJ and I have going, is by the time we are in the bottom of the ladder, we will be racing wheel chairs in a home.

[Larry Hill]

RJ you always bring a smile to my face.

Happy Thanksgiving, we hope to see you out racing more this year.

Blair I like Wheaties "Breakfast of Champions", maybe you should try them. Wheaties helped me get to the winners circle!

I am not pissed. I feel cheated. I believe NHRA has an opportunity to correct an error.

I like History. Scott Wilcox may not be a big fan of history. His 1967 SS/A Corvette, with the stroke of a pen, was removed from the classification guide.

A few years ago every big block Corvette had the L-88 hood, not so today. The stroke a pen corrected an error.

Since we now have aftermarket cranks for the FE Fords, there is no reason to have a connecting rod that is non OEM size.

I may be wrong, but I don't think so!

[CaptCobrajet]

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

I was quietly drinking beer, and I get drug into this mess. I will be in E this year. I managed to get myself 'upped' a class. Don't know how I did that. I don't know about the FE or FD's or anything like that. If RJ and Blair are involved, then it's open range law. On the cranks, it just makes more available especially for some of the older cars. It's just gotta look like a stock crank and can't have the whole counterweight gone, and no knife edge. Did I miss something here. The good thing RJ and I have going, is by the time we are in the bottom of the ladder, we will be racing wheel chairs in a home.

Hey Jeff, when you and RJ get into wheelchairs, I'll race you for some of that beer!

Larry, the "strokes of the pen" you refer to were done based on info about combos and hood heights that did not exist from the OEM. There is no disputing that FE's never came with 2.2 rods, but they were accepted as replacements, and alot of water has run under that bridge since then. If there was any advantage, it has been absorbed by now in the AHFS, much like any changes are that affect performance. Aluminium heads and permitted grinding of combustion chambers helped BB Chevys alot more than it did my junk, but I lived with it, and just tried to make my stuff better somewhere else to level up with a change that affected me negatively in comparison to a closed chamber BBC.

You will see lots of Ford blocks, and 50 year-old iron heads, and OEM manifolds on many FE Stockers. Blocks, heads, and manifolds make alot more difference than different bearings with MORE surface area. Everyone gets a perk here and there.............maybe yours is next............if it makes your Mopar a rocket, you will either move up a class like Mr. Jeff, or you will outrun our FE junk until we get smarter!

I usually don't post on here..........don't have much time, but I had to chime in on this one. Happy Thanksgiving to all. I hope I get to see you guys at the races some next year. I'm not much of a beer drinker, but I would drink at least one with Jeff Tueton just because he is an asset to class racing and a fine feller.

[RJ Sledge]

Do these have to be Stock wheelchairs????

RJ

[Jeff Teuton]

There was one with a Hemi next to the Hemi Powered Sno Blower at the new car show a couple years ago. What is a sno blower anyway? R J, do you know?

[RJ Sledge]

Jeff don't have a clue, but no Factory Drag Pak wheelchairs, that ain't fair!!

RJ

[Larry Hill]

RJ I have been trying to figure how two .892 width bearing that fit into a rod that is .995 wide fits on the crankpin without interferance.

Lets do the math: BBC rod width .995 X 2 = 1.990 + .015 rod side clearance = 2.005''

FE Ford rod width .868 X 2 = 1.736 + .015 rod side clearance = 1.751''

BBC assembled width of two rods and .015 side clearance 2.005

FE Ford assembled width of two rods and .015 side clearance 1.751

2.005 - 1.751 = .254 interferance.

You could not assemble these parts with a four pound hammer.

Its kind of humorous to know the width of two stock ( remember Stock) Chevy bearings is .033'' wider than two FE rods.

Either the rod was narrowed at the big end or the crank really had to be ground on to make the crankpin wide enough to accept two rods that were 1/4 " wider than OEM. Just a guess but I think the crank lost another pound or so.

So did the postman grind on the rod?

I would like to buy a new Auccucrank for a 428 and a set of new Dove heads. Let me guess neither are available, but new oem size cranks can still be purchased.

I just want the 2.200 crankpins for the FE and 429/460 Fords out of Stock. It was approved for Superstock by NHRA and I don't know S/S rules well enough to discuss the subject.

Thanks Dan

[CaptCobrajet]

It ain't a Chevy rod Larry.......it only uses a 2.2 bearing, Dan. Dan? who's Dan? .830+.830= 1.660.

Jeff, I don't think the Hemi is legal in a wheelchair, but we could probably rig some chainsaws on there.........one for each rear tire, and two throttle controls! You'd have to supply the beer.......The brakes really suck on these things, but who needs brakes, right?

[RJ Sledge]

Hey Dan .....is that you?????? What happen to Larry?? Who makes New OEM 3.784 stroke cranks for the FE?? I'm all ears......

RJ

Happy Thanksgiving Dan

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

RJ I have been trying to figure how two .892 width bearing that fit into a rod that is .995 wide fits on the crankpin without interferance.

Lets do the math: BBC rod width .995 X 2 = 1.990 + .015 rod side clearance = 2.005''

FE Ford rod width .868 X 2 = 1.736 + .015 rod side clearance = 1.751''

BBC assembled width of two rods and .015 side clearance 2.005

FE Ford assembled width of two rods and .015 side clearance 1.751

2.005 - 1.751 = .254 interferance.

You could not assemble these parts with a four pound hammer.

Its kind of humorous to know the width of two stock ( remember Stock) Chevy bearings is .033'' wider than two FE rods.

Either the rod was narrowed at the big end or the crank really had to be ground on to make the crankpin wide enough to accept two rods that were 1/4 " wider than OEM. Just a guess but I think the crank lost another pound or so.

So did the postman grind on the rod?

I would like to buy a new Auccucrank for a 428 and a set of new Dove heads. Let me guess neither are available, but new oem size cranks can still be purchased.

I just want the 2.200 crankpins for the FE and 429/460 Fords out of Stock. It was approved for Superstock by NHRA and I don't know S/S rules well enough to discuss the subject.

Thanks Dan

Using a narrower bearing on the rods has been done for years.
You just have to relocate the tang chamfer on the connecting rod.