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Old 12-21-2012, 09:59 AM   #1
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An actual stock LT1 makes nowhere the NHRA Stock Eliminator HP rating. There is a LOT of work in those heads that is passing tech. Plus, it is a very efficient car. Light, aero-slick with a lot of natural engine set back. If it was rated at what a factory stock LT1 actually makes they would be even more dangerous.
that was my point Ed........the NHRA Super Stock LT1 horsepower rating is nowhere close to the NHRA STOCK hp rating........what is the problem ??? Super Stock horsepower should be raised to at least match NHRA STOCK rating----does that not make sense ????
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:49 AM   #2
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Rusty Super Stock guys are a lot smarter then Stockers who have the Lt1. If you run more than 1.00 under NHRA will beat you up with the ink pen. Thats why we are at 346 now.
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:32 AM   #3
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Rusty Super Stock guys are a lot smarter then Stockers who have the Lt1. If you run more than 1.00 under NHRA will beat you up with the ink pen. Thats why we are at 346 now.
Sorta. Running more than a 1.00 under isn't that bad a thing especially for the LT1 in stock. Running 1.20 under is a different story.

The advantage that we have for the LT1 in stock is that there are so many people that run it across many classes. Plus a lot of them go rounds in eliminations. This is huge because all those rounds are counted vs. just one for qualifying. You will see that the elimination rounds are most often the slower runs.

It is all about the averages as long as it is kept slower than the 1.20 under. Keep the average for the class and engine family below the .85 threshold then it becomes no harm no foul for the 1.00 triggers.

Sheer dumb luck and dilution is a wonderful thing.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:14 PM   #4
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Rusty Super Stock guys are a lot smarter then Stockers who have the Lt1. If you run more than 1.00 under NHRA will beat you up with the ink pen. Thats why we are at 346 now.
Sterling......I was trying to say that without saying the stupid part......you hit it just right !!!!
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Old 12-21-2012, 04:20 PM   #5
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Rusty Super Stock guys are a lot smarter then Stockers who have the Lt1. If you run more than 1.00 under NHRA will beat you up with the ink pen. Thats why we are at 346 now.
Some of us are Sterling! Others just don't care, or don't know to protect a good combo. They trigger reviews on red lights, bye runs and in qualifying, then go build or claim a different combo. Just plain dumb in my mind!
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that was my point Ed........the NHRA Super Stock LT1 horsepower rating is nowhere close to the NHRA STOCK hp rating........what is the problem ??? Super Stock horsepower should be raised to at least match NHRA STOCK rating----does that not make sense ????
I don't see why. Maybe you need to build one to show the rest of us how it should be done.
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that was my point Ed........the NHRA Super Stock LT1 horsepower rating is nowhere close to the NHRA STOCK hp rating........what is the problem ??? Super Stock horsepower should be raised to at least match NHRA STOCK rating----does that not make sense ????
Super stock vs Stock LT1.... A super stock GT/BA and a Stock S/BA have the same weight break at 8.50. What separates the two are the indexes, the super stock index is 10:25 vs the stock index at 11:25. I believe the stock LT1 HP is 345 vs the super stock HP 295 that means that the stocker is 425lbs heavier than the super stocker. Take that off the 1 second index advantage and that leaves the stocker some where around 5 1/2 tenths better than the super stocker. With all the modifications to a super stocker this makes them pretty close. Are look at it this way take 425lbs out of a LT1 stocker and rate it at 295 now run it on a 10:25 index. The HP rating does make it look funny but don't forget about the indexes.
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Super stock vs Stock LT1.... A super stock GT/BA and a Stock S/BA have the same weight break at 8.50. What separates the two are the indexes, the super stock index is 10:25 vs the stock index at 11:25. I believe the stock LT1 HP is 345 vs the super stock HP 295 that means that the stocker is 425lbs heavier than the super stocker. Take that off the 1 second index advantage and that leaves the stocker some where around 5 1/2 tenths better than the super stocker. With all the modifications to a super stocker this makes them pretty close. Are look at it this way take 425lbs out of a LT1 stocker and rate it at 295 now run it on a 10:25 index. The HP rating does make it look funny but don't forget about the indexes.
Herbie....did you ever consider a job in politics or litigation ???? hahahahahah
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Thank you Rusty and Mr. Ratcliff. Ok Lt1 guys no HP in 2013. I'm at 3455lbs. now haha
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Thank you Rusty and Mr. Ratcliff. Ok Lt1 guys no HP in 2013. I'm at 3455lbs. now haha
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