Who didn't see this coming? - Barton

[John Duzac]

Originally Posted by Toby Lang

FYI, PJ1 is VHT, the manufacturer just changed the name:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ1_TrackBite


Here's a post by Jeff Foster from DRR:



http://drr.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/t...426#2547096426

Toby, you are smarter than that! Walk on the starting line and ask your self it it as sticky as it use to be. Anyone who has 20 lbs of air pressure may not agree. But if you are running 8 or 9 lbs and still and still spinning, the track if bad. VHT would pull your shoes off. PJ1 will not. The hotter the surface the worst the bite!

[C and W Racing]

Originally Posted by John Duzac

Toby, you are smarter than that! Walk on the starting line and ask your self it it as sticky as it use to be. Anyone who has 20 lbs of air pressure may not agree. But if you are running 8 or 9 lbs and still and still spinning, the track if bad. VHT would pull your shoes off. PJ1 will not. The hotter the surface the worst the bite!

VHT always had a very distinked smell, haven't smelled that smell in years.
Chuck

[cudadoug]

Well, based on the email from NHRA that Ken posted, I would hope NHRA will reconsider the fine levied.

HOWEVER, if there is any truth to Mr. Barton "using profanity" and being less than professional in his complaint, then he should reconsider that next time, as well...

[Wade_Owens]

Originally Posted by John Duzac

Toby, you are smarter than that! Walk on the starting line and ask your self it it as sticky as it use to be. Anyone who has 20 lbs of air pressure may not agree. But if you are running 8 or 9 lbs and still and still spinning, the track if bad. VHT would pull your shoes off. PJ1 will not. The hotter the surface the worst the bite!

John, keep in mind, most tracks "cut" the spray with their own magic formula. They try to stretch the glue by mixing some blend they have come up with and try to convince the racers its the hot ticket. Most of the time, it falls short and wears off before a few rounds get completed. D3 has sworn off of VP. Maybe its the product, or the way the track manager applies it, or how he chooses to cut it. But, since all D3 divisionals have started using VHT, its become more consistent. Depending on how much of a tightass your track owner is will have a direct effect on shoe removal!

Congrats on your record!! You guys deserve it!!

Wade

[David Barton]

A big thank you to everyone that has sent me a contribution already. I see several people have commented about using PayPal so I just opened up an account under david@raybarton.com

Once again, thank you all for being so supportive.

[Bruce Noland]

Anybody read their email from Josh Peterson? He blames the scedule on racer input and semi apologizes because the race was a cluster. More mangled dukie.

I'm contributing to this cause today.

I would not even appeal this crock. I would be like, sorry for the rant dude. Here's your money and dismiss these folks for what they are.

[Saftey first]

First things first I CANNOT believe anyone one give a dime to David..... A couple things here,First off, the guy has a HIGH powered Motor on a small tire, next the track is EXTREMELY hot, so yes, MANY MANY people spun with the same kinda cars. Sorry, but he deserves the fine, he stop's the car ON THE TRACK and gets out yelling with his foul mouth. There are things you can and cannot do, and that is one of them you cannot do. Not to mention how he screwed his own "SPORTSMAN" racer behind him in the burnout box. As far as your video of your crash on another poorly prepped track., learn how to lift next time, and not correct it to hard. If you ask me, I think maybe his Dad should pay the fine, not other sportsman racers since David is out there promoting his Dad.

Maybe you guy;s can help me out, I got pulled over the other day, and when the cop came up to the car I jumped out and starting cussing him out, and i got locked up. I set up a Paypal account for my fellow sportsman racers to bail me out. Thank you for your time guy's, and remember.... SAFTEY FIRST.

[Toby Lang]

Originally Posted by John Duzac

Toby, you are smarter than that! Walk on the starting line and ask your self it it as sticky as it use to be. Anyone who has 20 lbs of air pressure may not agree. But if you are running 8 or 9 lbs and still and still spinning, the track if bad. VHT would pull your shoes off. PJ1 will not. The hotter the surface the worst the bite!

So, what would you propose they use instead of PJ1 (which is the same thing as VHT except the name)?

Also, what Wade said.

[1320racer]

I still applaud David for having the balls to let them know how he felt about those deplorable track conditions however several class racers have expressed to me that david deserves what he got.

[rickg]

Originally Posted by Saftey first

First things first I CANNOT believe anyone one give a dime to David..... A couple things here,First off, the guy has a HIGH powered Motor on a small tire, next the track is EXTREMELY hot, so yes, MANY MANY people spun with the same kinda cars. Sorry, but he deserves the fine, he stop's the car ON THE TRACK and gets out yelling with his foul mouth. There are things you can and cannot do, and that is one of them you cannot do. Not to mention how he screwed his own "SPORTSMAN" racer behind him in the burnout box. As far as your video of your crash on another poorly prepped track., learn how to lift next time, and not correct it to hard. If you ask me, I think maybe his Dad should pay the fine, not other sportsman racers since David is out there promoting his Dad.

Maybe you guy;s can help me out, I got pulled over the other day, and when the cop came up to the car I jumped out and starting cussing him out, and i got locked up. I set up a Paypal account for my fellow sportsman racers to bail me out. Thank you for your time guy's, and remember.... SAFTEY FIRST.

sorry it's 'safety' first