How do you get Hp and not go 1.20 under

boster · 09-05-2013, 07:22 PM

In case anyone messed it the 2012 CJ got 20 hp today and not a single 2012 SS/AAA car went 1.20 under at Indy ? Now we have been told that we are getting 2 tenths taken off our index as well because the 2010 CJ's of Skillman and Candies went 1.26 under and cant race and more because of weight 638hp x5.5 = 3509 +170 = 3679 which is not SFI approved weight

The 2010 car did this they should be penalized not 2012 cars

Everyone should LYAO at us dumb *ss Ford super stock CJ owners . This is so messed up even if we got 20hp by magic thats only 5.5 x 20=110lbs not 2 tenths index .

Steaming

Anyone wanting a CJ I have 2 cheap

rawhide · 09-05-2013, 07:43 PM

[QUOTE=boster;398509]In case anyone messed it the 2012 CJ got 20 hp today and not a single 2012 SS/AAA car went 1.20 under at Indy ? Now we have been told that we are getting 2 tenths taken off our index as well because the 2010 CJ's of Skillman and Candies went 1.26 under and cant race and more because of weight 638hp x5.5 = 3509 +170 = 3679 which is not SFI approved weight

The 2010 car did this they should be penalized not 2012 cars

Everyone should LYAO at us dumb *ss Ford super stock CJ owners . This is so messed up even if we got 20hp by magic thats only 5.5 x 20=110lbs not 2 tenths index .

Bo,
That was yesterday's news. Today they went back I believe.
Roland

Horsepower adjustments following the Chevrolet Performance U.S. Nationals

As the result of runs under the Automatic Horsepower Factoring System (AHFS) 1.20-second under policy at the Chevrolet Performance U.S. Nationals, the following changes have been made.

The horsepower rating for 2010 Ford Mustang Cobra Jet, entries with the 330 cubic inch engine and a factory rating of 500 currently rated at 636, has been decreased by twenty six horsepower, to 609 horsepower; for Super Stock Eliminator.

As a result of an error found in the race data, the horsepower rating for 2012 Ford Mustang Cobra Jet, entries with the 330 cubic inch engine and a factory rating of 510 recently rated at 608, has been decreased by twenty horsepower back to its previous rating of 588 horsepower; for Super Stock Eliminator.

The index for SS/AAA has been decreased by .2 tenths to 9.20.
NHRA's 2013 Automatic Horsepower Factoring System outlines that any run of 1.20-seconds or more under the index will receive an immediate index decrease or horsepower increase. These changes are effective Sep. 5, 2013.

boster · 09-05-2013, 08:18 PM

Thanks Rowand , still sucks to lose 2 tenths index and cant run another class.

art leong · 09-05-2013, 08:40 PM

As the song says "Welcome to my world"

boostedf22c · 09-05-2013, 09:42 PM

I got a tenth last year and never went 1.20 under. Yay!!!!!

art leong · 09-05-2013, 09:58 PM

What really needs to be fixed is the FS/ class indexes Most of the top 20 stockers were in those classes, and they did not have to worry one bit about the AHFS.

SS Engine Guy · 09-05-2013, 10:32 PM

While we are on screwed up index reductions that reminds me that everyone got several tenths taken off their indexes a few years ago because some illegal cars with worked on combustion chambers went fast, got tossed, and rules were changed to make them legal. Matter of fact, this had been being overlooked for a few years and a run in at teardown at Indy brought this to the conclusion. Sorry to bring this up again but just another case of the illegal cars that should have got suspended were made legal and legal cars ie: (combustion chamber modifications NOT permitted) got punished.

This in no way implies that any of the cars mentioned in this thread are or were illegal in any way. Just an example of index reductions. However....not weighing or fuel checking a heads up final?

Joe Toller · 09-05-2013, 10:37 PM

At the NHRAracer website they say the 2012 got their 20hp back. AAA/SA index drops to 9.20.

OOPS! Repeat post. Sorry!

Tony Janes · 09-06-2013, 11:17 AM

I am surprised that nobody has said why SS/AAA went from 9.40 to 9.20.

art leong · 09-06-2013, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Janes

I am surprised that nobody has said why SS/AAA went from 9.40 to 9.20.

It is all explained in the AHFS rules. The whole class was fast so the index got hit instead of horsepower.

09-05-2013, 07:22 PM	#1
boster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: usa Posts: 958 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	How do you get Hp and not go 1.20 under In case anyone messed it the 2012 CJ got 20 hp today and not a single 2012 SS/AAA car went 1.20 under at Indy ? Now we have been told that we are getting 2 tenths taken off our index as well because the 2010 CJ's of Skillman and Candies went 1.26 under and cant race and more because of weight 638hp x5.5 = 3509 +170 = 3679 which is not SFI approved weight The 2010 car did this they should be penalized not 2012 cars Everyone should LYAO at us dumb *ss Ford super stock CJ owners . This is so messed up even if we got 20hp by magic thats only 5.5 x 20=110lbs not 2 tenths index . Steaming Anyone wanting a CJ I have 2 cheap __________________ Bo Kenney

09-05-2013, 07:43 PM	#2
rawhide Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 270 Likes: 1 Liked 7 Times in 5 Posts	Re: How do you get Hp and not go 1.20 under [QUOTE=boster;398509]In case anyone messed it the 2012 CJ got 20 hp today and not a single 2012 SS/AAA car went 1.20 under at Indy ? Now we have been told that we are getting 2 tenths taken off our index as well because the 2010 CJ's of Skillman and Candies went 1.26 under and cant race and more because of weight 638hp x5.5 = 3509 +170 = 3679 which is not SFI approved weight The 2010 car did this they should be penalized not 2012 cars Everyone should LYAO at us dumb *ss Ford super stock CJ owners . This is so messed up even if we got 20hp by magic thats only 5.5 x 20=110lbs not 2 tenths index . Bo, That was yesterday's news. Today they went back I believe. Roland Horsepower adjustments following the Chevrolet Performance U.S. Nationals As the result of runs under the Automatic Horsepower Factoring System (AHFS) 1.20-second under policy at the Chevrolet Performance U.S. Nationals, the following changes have been made. The horsepower rating for 2010 Ford Mustang Cobra Jet, entries with the 330 cubic inch engine and a factory rating of 500 currently rated at 636, has been decreased by twenty six horsepower, to 609 horsepower; for Super Stock Eliminator. As a result of an error found in the race data, the horsepower rating for 2012 Ford Mustang Cobra Jet, entries with the 330 cubic inch engine and a factory rating of 510 recently rated at 608, has been decreased by twenty horsepower back to its previous rating of 588 horsepower; for Super Stock Eliminator. The index for SS/AAA has been decreased by .2 tenths to 9.20. NHRA's 2013 Automatic Horsepower Factoring System outlines that any run of 1.20-seconds or more under the index will receive an immediate index decrease or horsepower increase. These changes are effective Sep. 5, 2013.

09-05-2013, 08:18 PM	#3
boster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: usa Posts: 958 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: How do you get Hp and not go 1.20 under Thanks Rowand , still sucks to lose 2 tenths index and cant run another class. __________________ Bo Kenney

09-05-2013, 08:40 PM	#4
art leong VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Richmond Hill, Georgia Posts: 2,003 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: How do you get Hp and not go 1.20 under As the song says "Welcome to my world" __________________ Art Leong 2095 SS

09-05-2013, 09:42 PM	#5
boostedf22c Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Lebanon, IN Posts: 483 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: How do you get Hp and not go 1.20 under I got a tenth last year and never went 1.20 under. Yay!!!!! __________________ Carey Bales 316D DD/AT www.racetactics.net

09-05-2013, 09:58 PM	#6
art leong VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Richmond Hill, Georgia Posts: 2,003 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: How do you get Hp and not go 1.20 under What really needs to be fixed is the FS/ class indexes Most of the top 20 stockers were in those classes, and they did not have to worry one bit about the AHFS. __________________ Art Leong 2095 SS

09-05-2013, 10:32 PM	#7
SS Engine Guy Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 256 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: How do you get Hp and not go 1.20 under While we are on screwed up index reductions that reminds me that everyone got several tenths taken off their indexes a few years ago because some illegal cars with worked on combustion chambers went fast, got tossed, and rules were changed to make them legal. Matter of fact, this had been being overlooked for a few years and a run in at teardown at Indy brought this to the conclusion. Sorry to bring this up again but just another case of the illegal cars that should have got suspended were made legal and legal cars ie: (combustion chamber modifications NOT permitted) got punished. This in no way implies that any of the cars mentioned in this thread are or were illegal in any way. Just an example of index reductions. However....not weighing or fuel checking a heads up final?

09-05-2013, 10:37 PM	#8
Joe Toller Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lewistown, Montana Posts: 550 Likes: 78 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: How do you get Hp and not go 1.20 under At the NHRAracer website they say the 2012 got their 20hp back. AAA/SA index drops to 9.20. OOPS! Repeat post. Sorry! Last edited by Joe Toller; 09-05-2013 at 10:38 PM. Reason: I am a dumbass.

09-06-2013, 11:17 AM	#9
Tony Janes Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Whittier, Ca Posts: 830 Likes: 94 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: How do you get Hp and not go 1.20 under I am surprised that nobody has said why SS/AAA went from 9.40 to 9.20. __________________ Tony Janes 7941 STK, SS