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Old 09-27-2013, 10:15 AM   #21
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I purchased the Ed-mobile Gremlin for fun, and to introduce my 16 year old daughter into the fun and its not as easy as it looks world of class racing.....the 14 year old will be old enough soon too....

Do you have to run pants and a coat in all classes in stock? Internet connection to the NHRA site is giving me drama this morning.

Still going to order her lightweight pant and coat, once I get a size and the oh so important color request.

Where is the best place to buy helmets now a days?

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Eric,

A great opportunity for family fun! I'd get the jacket and pants with a full face helmet no matter what class requirements are. Didn't think about it long ago but after being to a burn unit, get the best rating you can and the full face helmet will help protect that pretty smile in a worst case event. (Will it be all pink?)

As the guys mentioned, if she is done growing, the latest Snell helmet, maybe from Kyle? My niece said I need a smaller helmet due to "shorter" hair
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Old 09-27-2013, 03:09 PM   #22
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I would also suggest the full face helmet. From a learning curve, if you start with something with limited visibility compared to an open face it could be a benefit to her in the long run. You never know when the open face helmets may no longer be allowed. More protection for her as well.

Cool thread!

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Old 09-27-2013, 03:58 PM   #23
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I would also suggest the full face helmet. From a learning curve, if you start with something with limited visibility compared to an open face it could be a benefit to her in the long run. You never know when the open face helmets may no longer be allowed. More protection for her as well.

Cool thread!

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X2...having seen Bill Riddle's Demon after the Fontana mishap I don't think I could ever go back to open face...I equate it to seeing motorcyclists without helmets in states that permit that; it makes me cringe every time.
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Old 09-27-2013, 06:13 PM   #24
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Full face is best, getting use to using quality safety equipment at the early stages of racing and following or exceeding safety rules is most important.
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Old 09-28-2013, 12:54 AM   #25
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now thats funny tom !

p.s. if you have a roll bar you need 5 point harness w/updates even though class isnt fast enough for the belts > if you have the bar you need the belts...
dont let anyone tell you different, you WILL go somewhere were they interperet it that way trust me !!!!!!!

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Old 09-28-2013, 07:18 AM   #26
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My .02 on safety gear. In any kind of car deemed quick, let's use the 11 second barrier to determine that. At a minimum. good helmet, certified jacket, maybe even a neck collar, probably consider pants and maybe even shoes. When we first started tinkering with the Achieva, I raced just like we did in the 70's, in a t-shirt. Godawful slow car, what could happen?

A bracket racer changed my mind. This was at an 1/8 track mind you. His comment, your car runs mid 10's, what if the car in the opposing lane is running in the 5's. If he gets out of control and hits you, what happens then? That following Monday, I ordered a new jacket and dug up a helmet, since upgraded to a new helmet. Oh, my wife also bought me a neck collar. I can live with the chuckles. I'm old enough to be past the "manly man" crap.

My thought on the belts, if you are going to the trouble of putting a rollbar in a car. Why wouldn't you put the proper belts in? I can see Jack's point there.
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Old 09-29-2013, 01:13 AM   #27
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My .02 on safety gear. In any kind of car deemed quick, let's use the 11 second barrier to determine that. At a minimum. good helmet, certified jacket, maybe even a neck collar, probably consider pants and maybe even shoes. When we first started tinkering with the Achieva, I raced just like we did in the 70's, in a t-shirt. Godawful slow car, what could happen?

A bracket racer changed my mind. This was at an 1/8 track mind you. His comment, your car runs mid 10's, what if the car in the opposing lane is running in the 5's. If he gets out of control and hits you, what happens then? That following Monday, I ordered a new jacket and dug up a helmet, since upgraded to a new helmet. Oh, my wife also bought me a neck collar. I can live with the chuckles. I'm old enough to be past the "manly man" crap.

My thought on the belts, if you are going to the trouble of putting a rollbar in a car. Why wouldn't you put the proper belts in? I can see Jack's point there.
You got it right.When I sold Eric the car he told me his daughter and down the road maybe his son would be driving him.I made him promise he would put a 6 point in the car.My reason was irregardless of the fact the car ran mid 13s the mustangs at the time were running around 140 mph.How fast are they going now?There weren't many when I ran the car,now they're like flys attracted to you know what.BTW Eric went one better and caged the car,so belts,helmet and clothing are mandatory now.
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Old 09-29-2013, 06:47 PM   #28
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You got it right.When I sold Eric the car he told me his daughter and down the road maybe his son would be driving him.I made him promise he would put a 6 point in the car.My reason was irregardless of the fact the car ran mid 13s the mustangs at the time were running around 140 mph.How fast are they going now?There weren't many when I ran the car,now they're like flys attracted to you know what.BTW Eric went one better and caged the car,so belts,helmet and clothing are mandatory now.
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Many years back I was racing a bone stock 13 second car slowed down to 19+ seconds. In the finals at our local track was against a 9 sec small block Vega. When the drivers father came over and told me to "be sure and stay in my lane because he would be coming fast" I guessed they really didn't understand which car was less safe and it made me think maybe I needed way more protection in the event they hit me and I couldn't get out of the car. (Especially at a local track compared to a national event)

I guess when the tech guy told me he didn't think my factory battery with the factory hold down in the factory location was safe while the car next to us started up in gear and took off after passing tech the light had begun to come on about safety. Having always used a full face helmet (from my first bike riding days) except my current open face auto helmet. I always feel exposed in it and will go back to a full face helmet on this next one.

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Old 09-30-2013, 03:47 PM   #29
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Many years back I was racing a bone stock 13 second car slowed down to 19+ seconds. In the finals at our local track was against a 9 sec small block Vega. When the drivers father came over and told me to "be sure and stay in my lane because he would be coming fast" I guessed they really didn't understand which car was less safe and it made me think maybe I needed way more protection in the event they hit me and I couldn't get out of the car. (Especially at a local track compared to a national event)

I guess when the tech guy told me he didn't think my factory battery with the factory hold down in the factory location was safe while the car next to us started up in gear and took off after passing tech the light had begun to come on about safety. Having always used a full face helmet (from my first bike riding days) except my current open face auto helmet. I always feel exposed in it and will go back to a full face helmet on this next one.
Hi all,

Thanks for the suggestions etc. As Ed pointed out, the Gremlin is likely the only fully caged T/SA car on the planet....Tom even put on a fitting for a net, when/if the need arises...As Ed envisioned a couple of years back, the Cobra Jet running her down at 140 Plus did happen in round 2 at LV at the divisional.....If the unspeakable happened, she had a chance with that cage......She has always run the suit and pants(I didn't let her know she didn't have too), and Joe Santangelo's old open face helmet. I am going to upgrade her to a full face next year, and have her pass the lucky open face down to her 16 year old brother who will be getting his feet wet next spring......Once the boy puts the old helmet on its "ruined" for her!

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Old 09-30-2013, 04:51 PM   #30
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You have plenty of race cars for the whole family. You need to get Rayna in one too!
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