Cheating - Page 3

Nitro Joe Jackson · 09-15-2007, 08:26 PM

I have been EVERY RT stat for the last 2 years in Comp, SS & Stock, you would shake your head at some of the lights recorded in my stats of RT's
Just a couple of AVG's:
Speed Racer, 37 runs, 1 perfect light, 1 red light and 36 green, .020 avg, not bad at all

Racer X, 51 runs, 1 perfect light, 2 red lights and 49 green, .025 avg, not bad at all

Names of these 2 racers was hidden to not offend anybody. Anybody wishing to know their avg's feel free to e-mail me, but i wont give you another drivers avg.

Speedracer · 09-15-2007, 08:47 PM

I don't remember the redight.

SPEEDRACER

Mickey Whaley · 09-16-2007, 03:22 AM

keith it will cost u $20 for me to keep this ed character off of ur azz i will bill u

Mickey Whaley · 09-16-2007, 03:24 AM

Why do we want change now???

Joe DeMarzo · 09-16-2007, 09:41 AM

Nitro Joe, please contact me, I have tried 2x and no response, may have the wrong information or is it "persona non grata".lol

XCHAMP1317@aol.com

Joe DeMarzo

Ron Middleton · 09-16-2007, 11:33 PM

There will always be those who will resort to cheating. Some start at an early age in elementary school. That does not say that all winners cheat, now do they? I've raced since 1970 from karts to Nascar SLim Jim All Pro series, NASCAR Busch and Cup series(crew member), NHRA and others. I've seen em get caught in all of them. I can't tell you how many times I saw NASCAR officials confiscate parts from almost every team on the circuit in the 80's and 90's. I've even been bounced from tech for valve stem diameter being .008 too small in the Parts Pro Truck series after winning and another time becuase tech man didn't measure valve lift correctly and had to be shown how to properly measure by another engine builder, it then checked legal. I don't think anyone here will deny that that there has been cheating but I don't think that's an all inclusive way to get to the winners circle. Do you?

CycloneFE · 09-17-2007, 04:58 PM

Do you think that if NHRA OR IHRA caught someone cheating it would turn out like this?

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/9/6767.html

Oclk Dlux · 09-17-2007, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CycloneFE

Do you think that if NHRA OR IHRA caught someone cheating it would turn out like this?

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/9/6767.html

Whew! 100M is a BIG fine. And we complain about the $250 oildown penalty :^)

FlyingW · 09-17-2007, 06:55 PM

Hey Ed,

Just for the record I run right off the footbrake in my stocker and my RT average fro 3 years is a .019 with 1 red and 1 perfect light so I am I cheating nope I just know how to hit the tree and thats that so HAVE A NICE DAY...................

Jeremy Waibel
NHRA B/SA 2231

Ron Middleton · 09-17-2007, 08:14 PM

Ed,
Here is where you and I disagree. I don't think two steps and buttons allow for more cheating than anything else. I also don't think you'd stop cheating by eliminating two steps and buttons. I could care less either way just give me the rules and I'll work my butt off to be fast. I run a speed shop and it would be pretty shamefum for my car not to be fast. That's the reason I still haven't race an NHRA or IHRA race yet. When it's fast, I'll be there til then I'll keep working on it and flogging it. I sure didn't think things had progressed so far when I quit back in 1979. I know now how wrong my thinking was.

09-15-2007, 08:26 PM	#21
Nitro Joe Jackson VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Loudonville, Ohio or where ever the Nitro Lounge is parked Posts: 2,293 Likes: 54 Liked 67 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Cheating I have been EVERY RT stat for the last 2 years in Comp, SS & Stock, you would shake your head at some of the lights recorded in my stats of RT's Just a couple of AVG's: Speed Racer, 37 runs, 1 perfect light, 1 red light and 36 green, .020 avg, not bad at all Racer X, 51 runs, 1 perfect light, 2 red lights and 49 green, .025 avg, not bad at all Names of these 2 racers was hidden to not offend anybody. Anybody wishing to know their avg's feel free to e-mail me, but i wont give you another drivers avg. __________________ Nitro Joe Jackson STK 3431 nitrojoe@neo.rr.com

09-15-2007, 08:47 PM	#22
Speedracer Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 59 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cheating I don't remember the redight. SPEEDRACER

09-16-2007, 03:22 AM	#23
Mickey Whaley VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,220 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Cheating keith it will cost u $20 for me to keep this ed character off of ur azz i will bill u

09-16-2007, 03:24 AM	#24
Mickey Whaley VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,220 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Cheating Why do we want change now???

09-16-2007, 09:41 AM	#25
Joe DeMarzo Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mahopac, NY Posts: 666 Likes: 48 Liked 113 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Cheating Nitro Joe, please contact me, I have tried 2x and no response, may have the wrong information or is it "persona non grata".lol XCHAMP1317@aol.com Joe DeMarzo __________________ Joe DeMarzo 1317 STK

09-16-2007, 11:33 PM	#26
Ron Middleton Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: Jackson, Ms. Posts: 350 Likes: 183 Liked 12 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Cheating..To Ed There will always be those who will resort to cheating. Some start at an early age in elementary school. That does not say that all winners cheat, now do they? I've raced since 1970 from karts to Nascar SLim Jim All Pro series, NASCAR Busch and Cup series(crew member), NHRA and others. I've seen em get caught in all of them. I can't tell you how many times I saw NASCAR officials confiscate parts from almost every team on the circuit in the 80's and 90's. I've even been bounced from tech for valve stem diameter being .008 too small in the Parts Pro Truck series after winning and another time becuase tech man didn't measure valve lift correctly and had to be shown how to properly measure by another engine builder, it then checked legal. I don't think anyone here will deny that that there has been cheating but I don't think that's an all inclusive way to get to the winners circle. Do you?

09-17-2007, 04:58 PM	#27
CycloneFE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Decatur Illinois Posts: 634 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Cheating Do you think that if NHRA OR IHRA caught someone cheating it would turn out like this? http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/9/6767.html

09-17-2007, 06:55 PM	#29
FlyingW Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Frostproof, Fl. Posts: 450 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Cheating Hey Ed, Just for the record I run right off the footbrake in my stocker and my RT average fro 3 years is a .019 with 1 red and 1 perfect light so I am I cheating nope I just know how to hit the tree and thats that so HAVE A NICE DAY................... Jeremy Waibel NHRA B/SA 2231

09-17-2007, 08:14 PM	#30
Ron Middleton Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: Jackson, Ms. Posts: 350 Likes: 183 Liked 12 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Cheating Ed, Here is where you and I disagree. I don't think two steps and buttons allow for more cheating than anything else. I also don't think you'd stop cheating by eliminating two steps and buttons. I could care less either way just give me the rules and I'll work my butt off to be fast. I run a speed shop and it would be pretty shamefum for my car not to be fast. That's the reason I still haven't race an NHRA or IHRA race yet. When it's fast, I'll be there til then I'll keep working on it and flogging it. I sure didn't think things had progressed so far when I quit back in 1979. I know now how wrong my thinking was.