Econo Modified

randy wilson · 01-03-2014, 10:57 AM

If you allow any cylinder head, I ain't interested. But, I wish you guys all the luck, and I hope it works for you. Thanks for listening, and "GET er done!"

joespanova · 01-03-2014, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by randy wilson

If you allow any cylinder head, I ain't interested. But, I wish you guys all the luck, and I hope it works for you. Thanks for listening, and "GET er done!"

Where the hell are you goin'? You're the one who started this debacle

Adger Smith · 01-03-2014, 02:22 PM

Billy,
Look at the rule # 33 on the APBA Super Stock class. It is about the Tech.
Interesting concept.

randy wilson · 01-03-2014, 02:36 PM

Joe, I didn't start this debacle, I started a discussion. I think there's more interest in a restrictor plate, restricted exhaust deal with any head. I just want to be man enough to step aside. What they're talking about now is just taking any, and all, existing cars, and heads, and handing them a restrictor plate. It just doesn't interest me, is all. It doesn't mean it won't work, it's just not my thing. Before long, anyone who wants to stay competitive, will have to purchase the head, and do the work to it, that makes it more powerful in a restricted air flow class. You're back to square one. I just find it hard to believe that 3 heads designed to run with each other, and cost of bare heads are as follows, Ford, $998 a pair, Mopar, $1,049 a pair, Chevy, $889 a pair. Or at least they were. That will be the cost limitations in itself. I'm sure some of you know what Carl at CFE charges for a ready to run top end. Why does it work so well in ASCS racing?

randy wilson · 01-03-2014, 02:40 PM

You know, the funny thing is we're all discussing, and arguing about something that will never happen. I think we've missed the era of interesting spectators, or racers in the concept.

Michael Beard · 01-03-2014, 03:00 PM

All anyone has done is provided opinions and options. It's just like the Class Nationals. We've talked about it ever since Alex's race, so we will have gone over a decade without a wildly popular event. Eventually, someone has to just DO it. If you have 10, 20, 30 guys that want to build spec head stick cars and go race them, you don't need NHRA's blessing. Just go do it.

Mark Yacavone · 01-03-2014, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Beard

If you have 10, 20, 30 guys that want to build spec head stick cars and go race them, you don't need NHRA's blessing. Just go do it.

Good point,Michael
Junior Dragster started with who, the Napp brothers at Englishtown, right?
If it's appealing to the masses, it'll spread..Go for it!

Dick Butler · 01-03-2014, 03:51 PM

Like I said before 3, 4 or 1 car at the Class nationals which could run SS/CS index in eliminator would start more questions and interest than all the discussions we have had here.
We'll see what happens..
Randy, Could we post cash to encourage one of the cars that ran at your place to show up? Pay them gas money or something and see one in person, If several ran there maybe they would show up together..Get your mailing list out and lets contact some of them.

X-TECH MAN · 01-03-2014, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by randy wilson

You know, the funny thing is we're all discussing, and arguing about something that will never happen. I think we've missed the era of interesting spectators, or racers in the concept.

If you remember the "TOP STOCK" deal at Norwalk in IHRA I had a small window to work in. I knew Bill Bader from working as a Tech Offical for IHRA for a long time and Bill was/is a good guy. He was reachable to the little guys and knew a good idea when he saw it. To bad it was "Bastardized" by one of the sponsors who had their name on the program when it came about. At the first race myself and Mike Keener of Checkmate fame put up the prize money out of our own pockets. I believe is was around $500 each along with a few small sponsors we had managed to round up and the hope that if enough cars showed up to race it would become an eliminator. It was well recieved and became an eliminator but as in most cases a good idea isnt always the main requirement. GM Performance and one of their engineers ended up shoving the crate motored combos up our....Im mean down our throats and the rest is history. It takes MONEY to keep an eliminator up and running no matter how popular it might become. GM had the $$$$$$, clout, and the powers that be bended to the almighty dollar. Just something to think about with any new endevor.

01-03-2014, 10:57 AM	#1
randy wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 882 Likes: 0 Liked 22 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Econo Modified If you allow any cylinder head, I ain't interested. But, I wish you guys all the luck, and I hope it works for you. Thanks for listening, and "GET er done!" __________________ don,t have one

01-03-2014, 02:22 PM	#3
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: Econo Modified Billy, Look at the rule # 33 on the APBA Super Stock class. It is about the Tech. Interesting concept. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)

01-03-2014, 02:36 PM	#4
randy wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 882 Likes: 0 Liked 22 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Econo Modified Joe, I didn't start this debacle, I started a discussion. I think there's more interest in a restrictor plate, restricted exhaust deal with any head. I just want to be man enough to step aside. What they're talking about now is just taking any, and all, existing cars, and heads, and handing them a restrictor plate. It just doesn't interest me, is all. It doesn't mean it won't work, it's just not my thing. Before long, anyone who wants to stay competitive, will have to purchase the head, and do the work to it, that makes it more powerful in a restricted air flow class. You're back to square one. I just find it hard to believe that 3 heads designed to run with each other, and cost of bare heads are as follows, Ford, $998 a pair, Mopar, $1,049 a pair, Chevy, $889 a pair. Or at least they were. That will be the cost limitations in itself. I'm sure some of you know what Carl at CFE charges for a ready to run top end. Why does it work so well in ASCS racing? __________________ don,t have one

01-03-2014, 02:40 PM	#5
randy wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 882 Likes: 0 Liked 22 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Econo Modified You know, the funny thing is we're all discussing, and arguing about something that will never happen. I think we've missed the era of interesting spectators, or racers in the concept. __________________ don,t have one

01-03-2014, 03:00 PM	#6
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Econo Modified All anyone has done is provided opinions and options. It's just like the Class Nationals. We've talked about it ever since Alex's race, so we will have gone over a decade without a wildly popular event. Eventually, someone has to just DO it. If you have 10, 20, 30 guys that want to build spec head stick cars and go race them, you don't need NHRA's blessing. Just go do it. __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

01-03-2014, 03:51 PM	#8
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Econo Modified Like I said before 3, 4 or 1 car at the Class nationals which could run SS/CS index in eliminator would start more questions and interest than all the discussions we have had here. We'll see what happens.. Randy, Could we post cash to encourage one of the cars that ran at your place to show up? Pay them gas money or something and see one in person, If several ran there maybe they would show up together..Get your mailing list out and lets contact some of them.