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Old 02-14-2014, 03:38 PM   #1
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How about all the wrong hoods they allow on the Mopars? AAR hoods on wrong Cudas. TA hoods on wrong Challengers. Hemi scoop hood on a 66 Belvedere.
In regards to the Challenger T/A fiberglass hood, I have a letter dated May 4, 1970 from Tom Hoover to Wally Parks, Jack Hart and Farmer Dismuke indicating this hood is now an available option on Challenger’s equipped with 340, 383, 440 4BBL. engines along with the 440 Six Pack and 426 HEMI. I’d be more than happy to share if needed but NHRA has accepted this for over four decades, therefore, it’s a non-issue. Now, the AAR glass hood for non 340 Six Barrel ‘Cudas, that’s another story…
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Old 02-14-2014, 04:45 PM   #2
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In regards to the Challenger T/A fiberglass hood, I have a letter dated May 4, 1970 from Tom Hoover to Wally Parks, Jack Hart and Farmer Dismuke indicating this hood is now an available option on Challenger’s equipped with 340, 383, 440 4BBL. engines along with the 440 Six Pack and 426 HEMI. I’d be more than happy to share if needed but NHRA has accepted this for over four decades, therefore, it’s a non-issue. Now, the AAR glass hood for non 340 Six Barrel ‘Cudas, that’s another story…

Yes, for the Challenger T/A hood, it is the N94 hood option.

The T/A hood option was available for all engine options as follows:

340/440- Six Pack: P/N 3577395

426 Hemi: P/N 3577396

340/440 - 4 Barrel: P/N 3577457

383 - 4 Barrel: P/N 3577458

Before Billy Nees says it does not exist, these part numbers are straight from the OEM 1970-1971, Chrysler Parts Catalog, Version 14-29-0; not from a racing catalog.
There are documented cars with these hoods and the carburetor base assemblies brings lots of money in the Hemmings catalog.

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Old 02-14-2014, 05:17 PM   #3
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Yes, for the Challenger T/A hood, it is the N94 hood option.

The T/A hood option was available for all engine options as follows:

340/440- Six Pack: P/N 3577395

426 Hemi: P/N 3577396

340/440 - 4 Barrel: P/N 3577457

383 - 4 Barrel: P/N 3577458

Before Billy Nees says it does not exist, these part numbers are straight from the OEM 1970-1971, Chrysler Parts Catalog, Version 14-29-0; not from a racing catalog.
There are documented cars with these hoods and the carburetor base assemblies brings lots of money in the Hemmings catalog.

Calm down there Sparky, while I was typing it I was thinking that I was wrong on the Dodge thing but I am correct about the AAR Cuda hood thing. David has already cracked me in the knuckles.
How long will it take before you say I don't exist? ;-)
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Old 02-14-2014, 06:30 PM   #4
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Calm down there Sparky, while I was typing it I was thinking that I was wrong on the Dodge thing but I am correct about the AAR Cuda hood thing. David has already cracked me in the knuckles.
How long will it take before you say I don't exist? ;-)
Don't worry, ever since I moved from the Bronx, I had to stop cracking knuckles...
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:23 PM   #5
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Just to add another slice to the pie , in 1978 at Bristol fall race , Robert Leonard of IHRA then mandated that I have frt and rr spoilers on my 68 302 E/S car. With much objection and being told all 302 cars came with such and no others ,I agreed to find and install if previous years champ remove from his 67 350 car. I did not install and I did race,class win and down to 4
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I would say that this car and this pic says it all. If a '67 302 had a cowl induction hood, front or rear spoiler this car would have had it in this pic.
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:58 PM   #7
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I would say that this car and this pic says it all. If a '67 302 had a cowl induction hood, front or rear spoiler this car would have had it in this pic.
67 / 68 was not in the hood ,air was fom cwl w/ special air cleaner and duct assembly. Very few were ever seen or used . Have 2 in my possesion
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Old 02-19-2014, 12:56 PM   #8
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Calm down there Sparky, while I was typing it I was thinking that I was wrong on the Dodge thing but I am correct about the AAR Cuda hood thing. David has already cracked me in the knuckles.
How long will it take before you say I don't exist? ;-)
As many of you might know I worked for Mr Norm's Grand Spaulding DODGE AS A LINE MECHANIC IN THE EARLY 70'S Arguably the largest high performance Dodge dealer ever, I probably prepped more new Challengers then most of you have seen, the ONLY car the fiberglass hood came on in 1970 was the 340six pack T/A! Anything else with ram air got a shaker with all due respect to mr Hakim I don't think that he was even legally driving yet in 1970.
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We had a 440-6-pack automatic Challenger house race car which replaced our 68 440 "M" code Dart which got sold driven mostly by our nervous manager Joe Nagle and occasionally me we actually tried a shaker to glass hood comparison test at US. 30 drag strip for kicks because people were stealing the T/A hoods off the lot the shaker was quicker and faster.
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Old 02-20-2014, 07:10 PM   #9
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As many of you might know I worked for Mr Norm's Grand Spaulding DODGE AS A LINE MECHANIC IN THE EARLY 70'S Arguably the largest high performance Dodge dealer ever, I probably prepped more new Challengers then most of you have seen, the ONLY car the fiberglass hood came on in 1970 was the 340six pack T/A! Anything else with ram air got a shaker with all due respect to mr Hakim I don't think that he was even legally driving yet in 1970.
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We had a 440-6-pack automatic Challenger house race car which replaced our 68 440 "M" code Dart which got sold driven mostly by our nervous manager Joe Nagle and occasionally me we actually tried a shaker to glass hood comparison test at US. 30 drag strip for kicks because people were stealing the T/A hoods off the lot the shaker was quicker and faster.
Maybe I wasn't driving but the 1971 Dodge Dealer Data Book is strong evidence showing the fiberglass hood option on non-T/A Challengers.

Therefore, it could have been ordered by a customer.

How do you argue that...?

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Maybe I wasn't driving but the 1971 Dodge Dealer Data Book is strong evidence showing the fiberglass hood option on non-T/A Challengers.

Therefore, it could have been ordered by a customer.

How do you argue that...?
my eyes and my really good memory
NEXT TIME YOU RUN INTO Norm or Lennie Krause at one of those shows you ex mopar guys seen to do ask them Norm will tell you that they would have ordered hundreds of them as it was the T/A's were almost sale proof, because they were so slow and cost too much for whayt you got

of all places GSD would have been the one to order cars with those hoods right up the street wad grand central Chrysler Plymouth which delivered at least half a dozen SS 68 HEMI CUDAS same deal only 70AAR CUDAS had the glass hoods no hemis or six pack RB wedges
What next?Are you going to find a Chrysler special order sheet that shows you could special order a aluminum intake manifold on a 70 or 71 440 six pack?
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