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Old 03-31-2015, 11:01 AM   #1
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Sammy, the slow guys/bracket contingent want you to lay down and lose, rather than them work as hard as you did to get fast.
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Old 03-31-2015, 12:53 PM   #2
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Sammy, that was 27 years ago. Last century. In the distant past. I think even Bruce would agree, things are different now. And I got my old 8th grade English teacher to instruct you in grammar, spelling, capitalization, and issue a graduation certificate to move on to high school. I think Charlie Bob is in the spelling class also. It has been this way since AHFS was created or spawned with bad seed. Now there is an uproar. I got hit several times on that issue, and never a tear down. Maybe I am used to it. Maybe I like it. It's just shocking how soft the indexes are for these cars.
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Old 03-31-2015, 02:44 PM   #3
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I know it is too late, but what do you think about only getting 1 round of qualifying in. This probably contributed to the 85 under rule not being met. Also I do not believe you could not say Sunday was not mineshaft conditions. I mean pro stock all running over 214mph and prostock bike almost 200 mph.
And I do have a dog in the fight as my combo got hit hard.
Hard to believe the LT1 has more hp than the LS1.
I am just glad that IHRA uses a little more common sense.

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Old 03-31-2015, 06:48 PM   #4
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I know it is too late, but what do you think about only getting 1 round of qualifying in. This probably contributed to the 85 under rule not being met. Also I do not believe you could not say Sunday was not mineshaft conditions. I mean pro stock all running over 214mph and prostock bike almost 200 mph.
And I do have a dog in the fight as my combo got hit hard.
Hard to believe the LT1 has more hp than the LS1.
I am just glad that IHRA uses a little more common sense.

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Even if the race would have fallen under the "Mineshaft" rule by half the feild qualifying at -.850 under or more. These combos would have still got hit because the mineshaft exception does not apply to going -1.200 or more under and receiving an immediate hp increase. Mineshaft rule only applies to getting review triggers on runs between -1.000 & -1.199 under

So guys shutting off did not effect these combos getting hit.
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Old 03-31-2015, 02:50 PM   #5
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Sammy, the slow guys/bracket contingent want you to lay down and lose, rather than them work as hard as you did to get fast.
Who exactly is advocating what you claim?
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Old 03-31-2015, 04:32 PM   #6
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All I can say is WOW!!!
Over 24,000+ views on this post, even to the extent the server is getting bogged down!

All I can say is I have never seen this much bickering about HP on any other make before.

In the past when Mopars or Fords get hit, there is not the commotion except with the GM racers happy they got HP.

Now Chevy products get hit with HP and I don't see the other guys happy it happened, except for Chevy racers fighting within themselves!

I do not believe the two racers meant to go that fast; like it was said before, the Pro racers were also flying down the track.

In the years I have been in the sport, with the exception of setting a record or being protested, I have never seen an engine taken apart after hitting the AHFS. Wrong or right, I do not believe NHRA is going to change the way the have been doing it.

What I believe is there are a lot of cars that are capable of running fast and holding back. Nevertheless, all it takes one hiccup while driving, you go fast when you didn't expect to do so and the cat is out of the bag!

If anyone feel that either any of both racers were cheating, then wait until the next race and protest them.
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Old 03-31-2015, 04:44 PM   #7
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If you are in a heavily populated class then it is much more difficult to "protect your index" especially if you want to win class. Obviously these two racers wanted to win the class trophy and let it all hang out. Really this is what class racing is all about. The reality with tear down is lately I have only seen tear down when a record is set or at Indy. The last few years at the Gator's they haven't done any tear down.
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Old 03-31-2015, 05:08 PM   #8
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This was not Class Eliminations, but rather 2nd round of eliminations of a national event, proved to be the critical round in winning the event, and an incredibly close run at that.

http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...r=100#indextop
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Old 03-31-2015, 06:44 PM   #9
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In the years I have been in the sport, with the exception of setting a record or being protested, I have never seen an engine taken apart after hitting the AHFS.
Guess you've not seen what happens at D-1 or D-3 events. Thats where there are teardowns for a -1.20 AHFS violation. At least they have always done that in the past. Who knows what will happen now.
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Guess you've not seen what happens at D-1 or D-3 events. Thats where there are teardowns for a -1.20 AHFS violation. At least they have always done that in the past. Who knows what will happen now.
LOL!!! You call going fast a violation?


I believe a lot of factors were involved such as;

1. Only one qualifying pass that didn't allow a baseline for follow on runs.

2. Not enough time for tear down if NHRA was willing to do so although I believe they will not done so at a national event unless they was class.

3. Excellent weather conditions that affected every class.

4. Two great racers ducking it out to win.

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