Why Class racing dies slowly

Dick Butler · 07-25-2015, 09:42 AM

Gentlemen, I appreciate the place to discuss my view of Racing Class in Stk and SS.
There is a place for every type of racing in these eliminators.
I appreciate all your input and opinions. I appreciate you listening to my thoughts.
Lets end this discussion with a hand shake and a thank you at this time.
Good Luck and I hope to see you all at the races..

Dick Butler

mtkawboy · 07-25-2015, 06:34 PM

As far as crate engines go in stock cars if you have the money & know the right people you can buy the special head bolts & intake bolts that cant be duplicated . So why would that work in NHRA any better ? If you have claimer engines the guy with the money just keeps buying the fast guys stuff until he gets tired of building new engines.

doglover44 · 07-26-2015, 06:24 PM

Who Builds a car for just for class racing and not for the bracket part of it ?

Jeff Niceswanger · 07-26-2015, 08:44 PM

Just left the divisional at Columbus... Final was heads up in Superstock with at least 2 other heads ups in the 3rd and 4th rounds...If you built a motor for the " Bracket " part of it ....you left early .

SStockDart · 07-26-2015, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Niceswanger

Just left the divisional at Columbus... Final was heads up in Superstock with at least 2 other heads ups in the 3rd and 4th rounds...If you built a motor for the " Bracket " part of it ....you left early .

What Jeff said X 2

Kevin Panzino · 07-26-2015, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Niceswanger

Just left the divisional at Columbus... Final was heads up in Superstock with at least 2 other heads ups in the 3rd and 4th rounds...If you built a motor for the " Bracket " part of it ....you left early .

Yep, and oh by the way there were 82 cars there in SS. Not what I would call a dying class.

Dick Butler · 07-27-2015, 09:08 AM

Glad it mattered that heads up runs occurred in the last few rounds..... and the winner was? by the way were the pairs of cars factored the same? or:? Despite the fact many reading this thread like to ignore that part on here I bet they wouldn't if they were in the situation.
Racing class is still the topic not Class racing which includes Eliminator and Class heads up racing.
Good to see the numbers of interested Class racers continues. It should because there are lots of Pts. meets, and Stk SS meets where the dial in is still the important portion of their competitiveness.

Jeff Niceswanger · 07-27-2015, 10:02 AM

Dick, Todd Frantz beat Brianna Kelly... One FI Combo , one carbureted in the final... BOTH cars had already had one heads up run on their way to the final, and made it past those. So 2 heads up races for the finalist...

Rick Schilling · 07-27-2015, 10:19 AM

[QUOTE=Dick Butler;477719]Glad it mattered that heads up runs occurred in the last few rounds..... and the winner was? by the way were the pairs of cars factored the same? or:?

They were both GT cars in the Super Stock final but they were different body styles. One was a front wheel drive conversion and one was originally rear wheel drive. I don't know either engine combination but even if they were the same, are you suggesting a "spec" body style as well? More specifically, all identical cars in the class in order to eliminate any aerodynamic advantage?

Nitro Joe Jackson · 07-26-2015, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by doglover44

Who Builds a car for just for class racing and not for the bracket part of it ?

Rich South
lol

07-25-2015, 09:42 AM	#1
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Why Class racing dies slowly Gentlemen, I appreciate the place to discuss my view of Racing Class in Stk and SS. There is a place for every type of racing in these eliminators. I appreciate all your input and opinions. I appreciate you listening to my thoughts. Lets end this discussion with a hand shake and a thank you at this time. Good Luck and I hope to see you all at the races.. Dick Butler

07-25-2015, 06:34 PM	#2
mtkawboy Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Billings Mt Posts: 282 Likes: 186 Liked 54 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Why Class racing dies slowly As far as crate engines go in stock cars if you have the money & know the right people you can buy the special head bolts & intake bolts that cant be duplicated . So why would that work in NHRA any better ? If you have claimer engines the guy with the money just keeps buying the fast guys stuff until he gets tired of building new engines.

07-26-2015, 06:24 PM	#3
doglover44 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Carlisle OH Posts: 1,386 Likes: 4 Liked 489 Times in 227 Posts	Re: Why Class racing dies slowly Who Builds a car for just for class racing and not for the bracket part of it ? __________________ Jake Biermann

07-26-2015, 08:44 PM	#4
Jeff Niceswanger Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 894 Likes: 687 Liked 1,034 Times in 368 Posts	Re: Why Class racing dies slowly Just left the divisional at Columbus... Final was heads up in Superstock with at least 2 other heads ups in the 3rd and 4th rounds...If you built a motor for the " Bracket " part of it ....you left early . __________________ Jeff Niceswanger 3740 SS

07-27-2015, 09:08 AM	#7
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Why Class racing dies slowly Glad it mattered that heads up runs occurred in the last few rounds..... and the winner was? by the way were the pairs of cars factored the same? or:? Despite the fact many reading this thread like to ignore that part on here I bet they wouldn't if they were in the situation. Racing class is still the topic not Class racing which includes Eliminator and Class heads up racing. Good to see the numbers of interested Class racers continues. It should because there are lots of Pts. meets, and Stk SS meets where the dial in is still the important portion of their competitiveness. Last edited by Dick Butler; 07-27-2015 at 09:12 AM.

07-27-2015, 10:02 AM	#8
Jeff Niceswanger Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 894 Likes: 687 Liked 1,034 Times in 368 Posts	Re: Why Class racing dies slowly Dick, Todd Frantz beat Brianna Kelly... One FI Combo , one carbureted in the final... BOTH cars had already had one heads up run on their way to the final, and made it past those. So 2 heads up races for the finalist... __________________ Jeff Niceswanger 3740 SS Last edited by Jeff Niceswanger; 07-29-2015 at 12:21 PM.

07-27-2015, 10:19 AM	#9
Rick Schilling Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Indy Posts: 103 Likes: 18 Liked 14 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Why Class racing dies slowly [QUOTE=Dick Butler;477719]Glad it mattered that heads up runs occurred in the last few rounds..... and the winner was? by the way were the pairs of cars factored the same? or:? They were both GT cars in the Super Stock final but they were different body styles. One was a front wheel drive conversion and one was originally rear wheel drive. I don't know either engine combination but even if they were the same, are you suggesting a "spec" body style as well? More specifically, all identical cars in the class in order to eliminate any aerodynamic advantage? Last edited by Rick Schilling; 07-27-2015 at 01:39 PM. Reason: Clarification