66 Fairlane Wagon Combination Suggestions - Page 2

Billy Nees · 08-31-2015, 01:12 PM

66 390 has a Autolite carb, iron intake, .430 something cam and 11.8 blueprinted compression.
67 390 has a Holley carb, aluminum intake, .480-.490 something cam and 12.8 blueprinted compression.
Both are rated at 319 HP. 67 390 is the way to go.

FireSale · 08-31-2015, 03:32 PM

I looked up both the 66 and 67 Fairlane on OldRide.com for specs and they seem about the same. Wheel base and overall length of wagons are the same. Here is a quote from the text of the 67 article:

"For 1967 the Fairlane was the base trim level model. It continued to use the same body as the one introduced to 1966 but with minor trim changes. The new grille was an aluminum single stamping instead of the two grilles used in the previous model and the taillights were divided horizontaly by teh back-up lights, instead of vertically like the 1966 Fairlane. You could get the Fairlane with a 410-hp or a 425-hp (dual Holley four-barrel carburetors) 427 cu. in. V-8."

Looks like with some minor trim changes, that 66 could become a 67 and use that previously mentioned 390 with the Holley 4BBL. I think it's rated at 320 HP.

That Holley is List 3793 for the "A". According to the Quick Fuel catalogue, the SSR 585 VS is a legal replacement for it.

Edit: My 67 Ford NHRA Engine Blueprint file says that 390 is rated at 320 HP with 10.5 compression. The Holley carb is C7OF A,B,C or D
Dale

Dwight Southerland · 08-31-2015, 05:09 PM

Billy's right. (cough, cough, gag)

Billy Nees · 08-31-2015, 05:44 PM

Dwight, you should get that cough checked out!!

Tom keedle · 08-31-2015, 06:55 PM

had a 66 fairlane GT convert. in high school, had an oem holley on it...

Billy Nees · 08-31-2015, 07:03 PM

Ya know, the thing to do here, except for the problem of the NHRA not working this way anymore, would be to get the 66 motor de-factored to about 290 HP. It has more in common with the 63-65 390 which is de-factored to 280 HP from 300 than it does with the 67 390 at 319.
Dwight, a couple of months ago, we talked about asking NHRA to go over the non-competitive 60s and 70s combos and giving them some help. I think that this combo should qualify for that help.

Richard Grant · 08-31-2015, 07:03 PM

The Hall's (I believe) ran a Wagon in G/SA several years ago. Apparently the combo was not competitive even though RJ's Sedan was one bad stocker. Maybe one of the Hall's or RJ could comment on why it wasn't a good choice.

mtkawboy · 08-31-2015, 07:54 PM

Wheelbase is shorter then a coupe, they are built on a Falcon chassis with Fairlane sheet metal. We ran one in E/S in the very early 70s in Div 2 with a 427/410 until I put it on the roof on 7 inch tires.

Bob Don · 08-31-2015, 08:00 PM

Just out of curiousity, is the "fresh air hood" (factory scoop) NHRA legal on the 66-67 Fairlane wagon?

Billy Nees · 08-31-2015, 08:04 PM

Yes, with the 427.

08-31-2015, 01:12 PM	#11
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,486 Likes: 3,587 Liked 7,683 Times in 1,731 Posts	Re: 66 Fairlane Wagon Combination Suggestions 66 390 has a Autolite carb, iron intake, .430 something cam and 11.8 blueprinted compression. 67 390 has a Holley carb, aluminum intake, .480-.490 something cam and 12.8 blueprinted compression. Both are rated at 319 HP. 67 390 is the way to go. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

08-31-2015, 03:32 PM	#12
FireSale VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Lakewood Washington Posts: 1,407 Likes: 29 Liked 237 Times in 126 Posts	Re: 66 Fairlane Wagon Combination Suggestions I looked up both the 66 and 67 Fairlane on OldRide.com for specs and they seem about the same. Wheel base and overall length of wagons are the same. Here is a quote from the text of the 67 article: "For 1967 the Fairlane was the base trim level model. It continued to use the same body as the one introduced to 1966 but with minor trim changes. The new grille was an aluminum single stamping instead of the two grilles used in the previous model and the taillights were divided horizontaly by teh back-up lights, instead of vertically like the 1966 Fairlane. You could get the Fairlane with a 410-hp or a 425-hp (dual Holley four-barrel carburetors) 427 cu. in. V-8." Looks like with some minor trim changes, that 66 could become a 67 and use that previously mentioned 390 with the Holley 4BBL. I think it's rated at 320 HP. That Holley is List 3793 for the "A". According to the Quick Fuel catalogue, the SSR 585 VS is a legal replacement for it. Edit: My 67 Ford NHRA Engine Blueprint file says that 390 is rated at 320 HP with 10.5 compression. The Holley carb is C7OF A,B,C or D Dale __________________ Dale Shearon 68 Mustang 6394 Last edited by FireSale; 08-31-2015 at 03:43 PM.

08-31-2015, 05:09 PM	#13
Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 1,999 Likes: 64 Liked 772 Times in 192 Posts	Re: 66 Fairlane Wagon Combination Suggestions Billy's right. (cough, cough, gag) __________________

08-31-2015, 05:44 PM	#14
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,486 Likes: 3,587 Liked 7,683 Times in 1,731 Posts	Re: 66 Fairlane Wagon Combination Suggestions Dwight, you should get that cough checked out!! __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

08-31-2015, 06:55 PM	#15
Tom keedle Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Berthoud, Coloraduh Posts: 695 Likes: 13 Liked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Re: 66 Fairlane Wagon Combination Suggestions had a 66 fairlane GT convert. in high school, had an oem holley on it... __________________ without losers,winning means nothing.

08-31-2015, 07:03 PM	#16
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,486 Likes: 3,587 Liked 7,683 Times in 1,731 Posts	Re: 66 Fairlane Wagon Combination Suggestions Ya know, the thing to do here, except for the problem of the NHRA not working this way anymore, would be to get the 66 motor de-factored to about 290 HP. It has more in common with the 63-65 390 which is de-factored to 280 HP from 300 than it does with the 67 390 at 319. Dwight, a couple of months ago, we talked about asking NHRA to go over the non-competitive 60s and 70s combos and giving them some help. I think that this combo should qualify for that help. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

08-31-2015, 07:03 PM	#17
Richard Grant Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West Monroe, La. Posts: 301 Likes: 9 Liked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Re: 66 Fairlane Wagon Combination Suggestions The Hall's (I believe) ran a Wagon in G/SA several years ago. Apparently the combo was not competitive even though RJ's Sedan was one bad stocker. Maybe one of the Hall's or RJ could comment on why it wasn't a good choice. __________________ Richard Grant 4988 STK

08-31-2015, 07:54 PM	#18
mtkawboy Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Billings Mt Posts: 281 Likes: 183 Liked 54 Times in 18 Posts	Re: 66 Fairlane Wagon Combination Suggestions Wheelbase is shorter then a coupe, they are built on a Falcon chassis with Fairlane sheet metal. We ran one in E/S in the very early 70s in Div 2 with a 427/410 until I put it on the roof on 7 inch tires.

08-31-2015, 08:00 PM	#19
Bob Don VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Greater Boston Posts: 1,495 Likes: 1,114 Liked 900 Times in 191 Posts	Re: 66 Fairlane Wagon Combination Suggestions Just out of curiousity, is the "fresh air hood" (factory scoop) NHRA legal on the 66-67 Fairlane wagon? __________________ Bob Don 128 SS

08-31-2015, 08:04 PM	#20
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,486 Likes: 3,587 Liked 7,683 Times in 1,731 Posts	Re: 66 Fairlane Wagon Combination Suggestions Yes, with the 427. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K