Ballast box designs

Coleydog · 01-29-2017, 12:59 AM

Im ready to do a ballest box in the car and need some insight on how and where one puts it, photos would help. I know the rule book explains this but kinda vague to me and whatever you guys have made does work. What's used for weight? Lead? I guess it would have to be removable or added to go up and down a class, right? Any help would be appreciated.
Oh yea forgot to add, I want to incorporate this into the rear cage bars if possible.

jim powers · 01-29-2017, 06:07 PM

what kind of car? i have good pics for gen 3 camaros and gen 1 camaros

1320racer · 01-29-2017, 06:18 PM

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Coleydog · 01-29-2017, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jim powers

what kind of car? i have good pics for gen 3 camaros and gen 1 camaros

70 Duster, but I guess most all will be the same, main thing is how do you set up the weights?

Travis Miller · 01-29-2017, 09:31 PM

When asked by a racer about weight in the box, I suggest using units of 10 lbs each such as lead. Set the car up with 50 lbs in the box. As you go from track to track if the scales vary, up to 50 lbs can easily be added or removed.

Ed Wright · 01-29-2017, 10:00 PM

I took the rule book to my friend's fab shop, had him build me one to those specs. Looks just like the picture in the rule book. Bought 25lb bags of lead shot at Bass Pro Shop. Made myself a ten & 15 lb bag of shot, and a 5 lb bag. I can adjust for scales anywhere I go.

Coleydog · 01-29-2017, 10:39 PM

Thanks, good info so far, never had to worry about adding or subtracting weight before in a race car. How is the box attached,to floor, frame, high, low? Figuring out where I want the bars in the trunk area now so if it is attached I can do it now instead of later

Mike Pearson · 01-30-2017, 05:09 PM

You only need a weight box if you are going to run loose ballast like shot bags. I see some who have hard weights mounted with a large stud and nut to the frame rail. You are only allowed 100 lbs. of removable ballast

Coleydog · 01-30-2017, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Pearson

You only need a weight box if you are going to run loose ballast like shot bags. I see some who have hard weights mounted with a large stud and nut to the frame rail. You are only allowed 100 lbs. of removable ballast

100 lbs "removable"... So in theory if the car finished up light I could weld in say a 200 pound steel plate to get close then fine tune with lead, that sound right? I like the idea of bolting in hard weights and not a box. Learning

Hacksaw · 01-30-2017, 08:07 PM

The "trick" is to build your combo as light as you can and then add weight in strategic places. If you place thick steel flat bar plates to a frame structure with two 1/2" bolts and tack weld the end of the nut, then this is not considered removable ballast. Add a weight box to fine adjust for different scales and your set.

01-29-2017, 12:59 AM	#1
Coleydog Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 569 Likes: 36 Liked 50 Times in 35 Posts	Ballast box designs Im ready to do a ballest box in the car and need some insight on how and where one puts it, photos would help. I know the rule book explains this but kinda vague to me and whatever you guys have made does work. What's used for weight? Lead? I guess it would have to be removable or added to go up and down a class, right? Any help would be appreciated. Oh yea forgot to add, I want to incorporate this into the rear cage bars if possible.

01-29-2017, 06:07 PM	#2
jim powers Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manville nj Posts: 357 Likes: 192 Liked 13 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Ballast box designs what kind of car? i have good pics for gen 3 camaros and gen 1 camaros

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1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,628 Likes: 160 Liked 758 Times in 379 Posts	Re: Ballast box designs .. Last edited by 1320racer; 02-03-2017 at 07:12 PM.

01-29-2017, 09:31 PM	#5
Travis Miller Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 478 Likes: 1 Liked 276 Times in 27 Posts	Re: Ballast box designs When asked by a racer about weight in the box, I suggest using units of 10 lbs each such as lead. Set the car up with 50 lbs in the box. As you go from track to track if the scales vary, up to 50 lbs can easily be added or removed.

01-29-2017, 10:00 PM	#6
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 389 Times in 169 Posts	Re: Ballast box designs I took the rule book to my friend's fab shop, had him build me one to those specs. Looks just like the picture in the rule book. Bought 25lb bags of lead shot at Bass Pro Shop. Made myself a ten & 15 lb bag of shot, and a 5 lb bag. I can adjust for scales anywhere I go. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

01-29-2017, 10:39 PM	#7
Coleydog Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 569 Likes: 36 Liked 50 Times in 35 Posts	Re: Ballast box designs Thanks, good info so far, never had to worry about adding or subtracting weight before in a race car. How is the box attached,to floor, frame, high, low? Figuring out where I want the bars in the trunk area now so if it is attached I can do it now instead of later

01-30-2017, 05:09 PM	#8
Mike Pearson VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,417 Likes: 596 Liked 1,880 Times in 562 Posts	Re: Ballast box designs You only need a weight box if you are going to run loose ballast like shot bags. I see some who have hard weights mounted with a large stud and nut to the frame rail. You are only allowed 100 lbs. of removable ballast __________________ Mike Pearson 2485 SS

01-30-2017, 08:07 PM	#10
Hacksaw Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 875 Likes: 192 Liked 300 Times in 168 Posts	Re: Ballast box designs The "trick" is to build your combo as light as you can and then add weight in strategic places. If you place thick steel flat bar plates to a frame structure with two 1/2" bolts and tack weld the end of the nut, then this is not considered removable ballast. Add a weight box to fine adjust for different scales and your set.