When you buy sunoco make sure it's not methanol - Page 6

nhramnl · 11-01-2018, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer

nonsense

Told you a long time back; not gonna argue with you ever again, Ed. You appear, I disappear.

Hacksaw · 11-01-2018, 10:18 AM

OK. The lesson here is....may the buyer beware! Time to put it to bed.

HR9121 · 11-01-2018, 12:18 PM

I've got to admit my curiosity is up a little, I plan to put this to the test this winter on the dyno. Maybe I will report back on this, PR maybe I won't 😆

bubski · 11-01-2018, 08:25 PM

This thread is unbelievable !!! How on earth couldn't you know the difference?? Doesn't gas smell like gas ?? Time to get back on your 85b and mill off your intake flange and get a new block and heads that never came on your car !! Haha !!

Jim Wahl · 11-02-2018, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by nhramnl

You may not have realized the full benefit of C-11.The conventional wisdom among experienced C-11 users is that to be fast with it, you'll have to retard the ignition timing a couple of degrees and go up a couple of jet sizes. I don't know if a straight switch from Purple or Blue to C-11 (changing nothing else) would allow you to see all there might be to see.

I run C11 and this is exactly what I have had to do! Low compression (at least (mopars) motors seem to run better on the dyno and the track like this.

1320racer, exactly how successful are you with your 3 cars and combos after 3 decades? You say everyone knows you? I've been Drag Racing over 5 decades and I've never heard of you. Your lack of respect to other racers here and your ego tells me I could care less to meet you. Jim

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1320racer · 11-02-2018, 05:03 AM

never heard of you either and also couldn't care any less about your comments..

Charlie Yannetti · 11-05-2018, 10:02 AM

I'll just say this.. if you are actually trying different fuels, and not making tune-up changes according to what your combination wants for that particular fuel, you just may be missing the advantages to that fuel.. and it is easier to do it on the dyno, if you in fact dyno.. many do not, because they run the same combinations freshen up after freshen up.. so they would have to try it at the track... and believe me, O2 sensors make the difference.. it's not that easy to read spark plugs anymore with some of these fuels..

There are some fuels that are almost a direct change over, but even with those, a little tuning would make things better..

Jim Wahl · 11-05-2018, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer

never heard of you either and also couldn't care any less about your comments..

It really doesn't hurt me that you never heard of me but apparently it hurts you to know not everyone has heard about you. It's quite evident that your ego and smart *** mouth runs faster than your cars though. You are sort of like the bearded lady at the carnival, entertaining for a short time but in the end not important or useful. Jim

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Jim Wahl · 11-05-2018, 02:30 PM

For what it's worth, I ran Sunoco in my SS and Stockers for many years. Way back before they even checked fuel. When I started having fuel check problems with it (2 in one year and 1 the next) I decided to try VP. They used to be pretty closely priced then and the only problem was figuring which one to switch to. Tried C12 and then settled on C11 as it seems to make more HP on the dyno in my particular (low comp 360 MoPar) combo. Many of my Chevy racer pals have told me the same. Just my experience so far, that's all.

There has been a lot of useful and informational info brought out here not withstanding the one ego driven poster here who insists you take his info as gospel and run the fuel HE wants you to run or you are a moron. LOL.

I think it is pretty evident that 1320racer has either got a deal with Sunoco or has stock in them. Nobody is that loyal to a fuel company! If I found a better fuel that worked better than what I run now... it'll be in my tank! After back to back dyno pulls I haven't found it yet.

Lastly, I would ask that you not feed the bear unless you enjoy the side show at the carnival. Jim

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1320racer · 11-05-2018, 09:08 PM

I speak the truth regardless of whose feelings and ego is wounded due to it. So Jimmy,
what part of the truth and the facts don't you like? Oh and my cars are quicker and faster than yours.

11-01-2018, 10:18 AM	#52
Hacksaw Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 884 Likes: 206 Liked 310 Times in 174 Posts	Re: When you buy sunoco make sure it's not methanol OK. The lesson here is....may the buyer beware! Time to put it to bed.

11-01-2018, 12:18 PM	#53
HR9121 Live Reporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New Bern, NC Posts: 3,467 Likes: 146 Liked 3,363 Times in 731 Posts	Re: When you buy sunoco make sure it's not methanol I've got to admit my curiosity is up a little, I plan to put this to the test this winter on the dyno. Maybe I will report back on this, PR maybe I won't 😆 __________________ James Williamson W200 J/SA. SS/JA

11-01-2018, 08:25 PM	#54
bubski Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 228 Likes: 14 Liked 165 Times in 60 Posts	Re: When you buy sunoco make sure it's not methanol This thread is unbelievable !!! How on earth couldn't you know the difference?? Doesn't gas smell like gas ?? Time to get back on your 85b and mill off your intake flange and get a new block and heads that never came on your car !! Haha !!

11-02-2018, 05:03 AM	#56
1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,628 Likes: 160 Liked 759 Times in 379 Posts	Re: When you buy sunoco make sure it's not methanol never heard of you either and also couldn't care any less about your comments..

11-05-2018, 10:02 AM	#57
Charlie Yannetti Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alpine, NJ Posts: 568 Likes: 188 Liked 192 Times in 83 Posts	Re: When you buy sunoco make sure it's not methanol I'll just say this.. if you are actually trying different fuels, and not making tune-up changes according to what your combination wants for that particular fuel, you just may be missing the advantages to that fuel.. and it is easier to do it on the dyno, if you in fact dyno.. many do not, because they run the same combinations freshen up after freshen up.. so they would have to try it at the track... and believe me, O2 sensors make the difference.. it's not that easy to read spark plugs anymore with some of these fuels.. There are some fuels that are almost a direct change over, but even with those, a little tuning would make things better..

11-05-2018, 02:30 PM	#59
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 667 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: When you buy sunoco make sure it's not methanol For what it's worth, I ran Sunoco in my SS and Stockers for many years. Way back before they even checked fuel. When I started having fuel check problems with it (2 in one year and 1 the next) I decided to try VP. They used to be pretty closely priced then and the only problem was figuring which one to switch to. Tried C12 and then settled on C11 as it seems to make more HP on the dyno in my particular (low comp 360 MoPar) combo. Many of my Chevy racer pals have told me the same. Just my experience so far, that's all. There has been a lot of useful and informational info brought out here not withstanding the one ego driven poster here who insists you take his info as gospel and run the fuel HE wants you to run or you are a moron. LOL. I think it is pretty evident that 1320racer has either got a deal with Sunoco or has stock in them. Nobody is that loyal to a fuel company! If I found a better fuel that worked better than what I run now... it'll be in my tank! After back to back dyno pulls I haven't found it yet. Lastly, I would ask that you not feed the bear unless you enjoy the side show at the carnival. Jim . __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

11-05-2018, 09:08 PM	#60
1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,628 Likes: 160 Liked 759 Times in 379 Posts	Re: When you buy sunoco make sure it's not methanol I speak the truth regardless of whose feelings and ego is wounded due to it. So Jimmy, what part of the truth and the facts don't you like? Oh and my cars are quicker and faster than yours.