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Old 07-26-2019, 10:52 AM   #1
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So I always hear how flawed the system is and we all know it is but the one time the AHFS would actually work nobody wants it to count. This is the race where all the fastest cars in the country will be at but let's not count it. The way I see it this would be the ultimate playing field to see how bad does someone want that Indy class trophy. I understand everyone wants to show how fast they are but for the most part everyone that races and looks at incremental times already knows who's fast to start with. This is the one race that the current system would work but nobody wants to use it because it's the one race where the vast majority of cars there need some correction.
Ed not trying to hurt your feelings but I doubt anyone from NHRA asked anyone anything about your proposal. I think it got filed in the trash because I don't know a soul that was asked their opinion. I liked it by the way!
Well said Cooter. You speak the TRUTH.
I don’t get it either.....
I have raced Indy when the 120 hit counted and when it didn’t
And we get what we have now..MULliGANs for the fastest under rated combos on earth!
And congrats to the 2 barrel..6 cylinder ..front wheel drive JUNK..Yes I said It!
#1 qualified car What a joke.
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Old 07-26-2019, 11:10 AM   #2
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I was lucky enough to Qualify #1 at Indy in 2008, and took HP for it. Would I do it again? Hell yes I would. But these days without the AHFS only the crazy soft combo's even have a remote chance. Does it affect the qualified field? No, but come on now 2 seconds under? That combo needs Hp added to it.
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Old 07-26-2019, 11:43 AM   #3
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So James and Cooter Lets say you get your cars flying and all the stars line up right for you at Indy. On blow up mode you can go 1:21 under for class win. And if the AHFS is in place are you really going to do it just for a class trophy. Really, not me and not very many others. Lets take a look at the 2015 COPO"s that run A/SA and B/SA. These cars in decent air can go 1:40 plus under. If the system works why haven't they got hit at the other 21 National Events. You think anyone would want to ruin their combo for a class trophy and a trip to the barn. BP
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I've spent a ton of money this year Mr Parker and I'm pretty sure I can't get to 1.20 under at Indy in August but if someone is running that fast in those conditions, some with ease I say they need HP. Just like the new cars running in the regular classes this is probably the only race that would help get those cars the hp they need if they want the trophy bad enough.
To answer your question though, with apologies to everyone running my combo, yes I would if that's what it took to win class at Indy I would.
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Lets take a look at the 2015 COPO"s that run A/SA and B/SA. These cars in decent air can go 1:40 plus under.
Technically not COPOs ,but we know the story on most of them.
NHRA wants new cars..Simple as that. They were supposed to go in as natural B cars, but the fine folks at No Hot Rods Allowed graciously put them in C.

Fortunately, there are several of them now, and they'll get theirs at other venues.
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So James and Cooter Lets say you get your cars flying and all the stars line up right for you at Indy. On blow up mode you can go 1:21 under for class win. And if the AHFS is in place are you really going to do it just for a class trophy. Really, not me and not very many others. Lets take a look at the 2015 COPO"s that run A/SA and B/SA. These cars in decent air can go 1:40 plus under. If the system works why haven't they got hit at the other 21 National Events. You think anyone would want to ruin their combo for a class trophy and a trip to the barn. BP
Barry they don’t run class enough and with 55 car fields there not enough competition.
Now if you ran CLASS at divisionals..you would see AHFS work..
The Baby Gator was great. And I don’t want to here about I ain’t going for class cause there’s no money $$$.
Now Barry when I met you all you wanted to do was be the fastest in your class Now with you decided to stay in control of your combo. Sissy boy.
Indy is a lot of fun but with no hamburger for me ..that’s it I ain’t going
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Barry they don’t run class enough and with 55 car fields there not enough competition.
Now if you ran CLASS at divisionals..you would see AHFS work..
The Baby Gator was great. And I don’t want to here about I ain’t going for class cause there’s no money $$$.
Now Barry when I met you all you wanted to do was be the fastest in your class Now with you decided to stay in control of your combo. Sissy boy.
Indy is a lot of fun but with no hamburger for me ..that’s it I ain’t going
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If i go, do i get a burger ?
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I have yet to be invited for a hamburger!
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Old 07-26-2019, 03:31 PM   #9
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To both James and Pete I will gladly give you a hamburger today if you would pay for it tomorrow. How many are old enough to remember that one. I'm going to try to make Atco are either one of you going? BP

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Old 07-27-2019, 10:16 AM   #10
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Basically racer X can get in Indy with one grade point, so he or she takes the bogus combo out of the trailer to hit one national open a year then go to indy and qualify at the top. Something about that just seems "unfair?" Sorry I hate to use that word.

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If the system works why haven't they got hit at the other 21 National Events. BP
That is why I believe Indy is where it is needed the most.

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In my opinion there has to be a venue to let all the cars run to their potential, and what better place than "the big go".
I thought that's what National Opens were for.

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So, you would have 128 or more, trying to qualify or win class at the biggest race of the year, yet trying to work the system at the same time , inside a two tenths window.
Yes, if you think you can actually pull that off. Again proving that is why this system was basically created for this event, one where everyone has to run as fast as they can or are capable of, just to make the field and/or win class.

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I agree with NHRA on this one, (which may sound strange to some of you).
I believe it's a great idea to suspend the charade and the joke for Indy
I have to disagree because I think it is turning this prestigious event into somewhat of a joke.

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So James and Cooter Lets say you get your cars flying and all the stars line up right for you at Indy. On blow up mode you can go 1:21 under for class win. And if the AHFS is in place are you really going to do it just for a class trophy. Really, not me and not very many others. Lets take a look at the 2015 COPO"s that run A/SA and B/SA. These cars in decent air can go 1:40 plus under. If the system works why haven't they got hit at the other 21 National Events. You think anyone would want to ruin their combo for a class trophy and a trip to the barn. BP
Yes, I do believe some racers would not care about their combo getting hit to win class at Indy. Especially a bucket list racer like me who may hit that event once or twice in my life. And at national events with only 50 cars it's not likely you will ever have to "turn it up." They are all-run situations so there is no need to go fast to make the field and if there is a heads-up you try to go .99 under for the win. So basically proving my point a third time that this system needs to be in place at Indy, where 30+ cars aren't making the show.
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