Clutch ID

Ralph A Powell · 10-04-2019, 07:33 PM

It's a long style hays thick cover fingers from the large circle appear to for the large Ford throw out bearing for the 13/8 input shaft

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Originally Posted by chopperloco

Clutch ID
Going to try to post a pic...
Does anyone recognize this clutch?
it's going in front of a Doug Nash 5 speed crash box, behind a small block in a 65 Vette,not positive which release bearing to use..

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...oqSEUAlK&ifg=1

Rory McNeil · 10-05-2019, 12:48 AM

Its actually called a Borg&Beck/Long hybrid. The Long fingers are installed in a Borg & Beck cover, and I believe rather than use the Longs counterweighted fingers, they used the Borg & Becks roller counterweight inside the cover. I never ran one, but I understand the Long style forged levers have a faster ratio than the B&B versions stamped steel levers.

Maverick · 10-05-2019, 06:36 AM

I have a couple of these pressure plates, in my collection of clutch parts. This pressure plate was conceived on some poor thinking. I would look for something with new technology. A lot of things have changed in clutches, . Be careful if you use this clutch, especially with the clutch material, rag or sintered iron. Do , some research, but the clutches have changed over the years, and this clutch was made with old thinking. Good luck

chopperloco · 10-06-2019, 01:48 PM

WOW!!!
Thanks for all the great info men!
I'm even more confused now lol
The disk is sinitered iron,the complete clutch came with the Nash crash box(no syncros)
The car is an ex-Modified 65 vette with a high comp.ratio tunnel ram 355"
It will see a little street driving to local cruise nights/car shows and a few visits to the strip.
I'm trying to work with all the old crap that i have on hand on a somewhat limited budget(as crazy as that sounds)

weedburner · 10-06-2019, 02:34 PM

For what you want to do, just use the parts you have and add a ClutchTamer to the mix. Not only will the car be far less likely to break parts, but also very likely to be quicker than it was before.

Grant

Chevy55 · 10-06-2019, 06:50 PM

It's really going to be tough running that crash box on the street, I'm interested in your thoughts after you get it going.

Joe Martens · 10-06-2019, 08:45 PM

It may be worth a shot to give Roy Storey a call. He was the clutch guy at Hays for years. I’m sure he could do something with it. His number is 216-333-4900. Mention my name if you call him. Good luck with the project!

Rod Greene · 10-07-2019, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevy55

It's really going to be tough running that crash box on the street, I'm interested in your thoughts after you get it going.

Back in the day every thing had a crash box. No semi truck trans had synchros. You just have to know how to drive.

10-05-2019, 12:48 AM	#2
Rory McNeil VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: from Vancouver BC Canada, now in Nova Scotia Posts: 1,311 Likes: 317 Liked 1,103 Times in 301 Posts	Re: Clutch ID Its actually called a Borg&Beck/Long hybrid. The Long fingers are installed in a Borg & Beck cover, and I believe rather than use the Longs counterweighted fingers, they used the Borg & Becks roller counterweight inside the cover. I never ran one, but I understand the Long style forged levers have a faster ratio than the B&B versions stamped steel levers. __________________ NHRA 6390 STK M/S 85 Mustang

10-05-2019, 06:36 AM	#3
Maverick Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 299 Likes: 3 Liked 36 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Clutch ID I have a couple of these pressure plates, in my collection of clutch parts. This pressure plate was conceived on some poor thinking. I would look for something with new technology. A lot of things have changed in clutches, . Be careful if you use this clutch, especially with the clutch material, rag or sintered iron. Do , some research, but the clutches have changed over the years, and this clutch was made with old thinking. Good luck

10-06-2019, 01:48 PM	#4
chopperloco Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ottawa,Ont.,CANADA Posts: 161 Likes: 155 Liked 82 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Clutch ID WOW!!! Thanks for all the great info men! I'm even more confused now lol The disk is sinitered iron,the complete clutch came with the Nash crash box(no syncros) The car is an ex-Modified 65 vette with a high comp.ratio tunnel ram 355" It will see a little street driving to local cruise nights/car shows and a few visits to the strip. I'm trying to work with all the old crap that i have on hand on a somewhat limited budget(as crazy as that sounds)

10-06-2019, 02:34 PM	#5
weedburner Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 55 Likes: 1 Liked 20 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Clutch ID For what you want to do, just use the parts you have and add a ClutchTamer to the mix. Not only will the car be far less likely to break parts, but also very likely to be quicker than it was before. Grant __________________ Grant website- http://ClutchTamer.com We make your non-adjustable clutch...ADJUSTABLE!

10-06-2019, 06:50 PM	#6
Chevy55 Banned Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 324 Likes: 625 Liked 179 Times in 89 Posts	Re: Clutch ID It's really going to be tough running that crash box on the street, I'm interested in your thoughts after you get it going.

10-06-2019, 08:45 PM	#7
Joe Martens Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Olmsted, Ohio Posts: 787 Likes: 627 Liked 196 Times in 69 Posts	Re: Clutch ID It may be worth a shot to give Roy Storey a call. He was the clutch guy at Hays for years. I’m sure he could do something with it. His number is 216-333-4900. Mention my name if you call him. Good luck with the project! __________________ Joe Martens AA/Stock 3969