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Old 10-26-2020, 09:46 PM   #1
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Default Re: Damn...305 superstock engine receives 15 hp.....

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I agree to start it shouldn’t. I guess I was considering that GT already had some et penalty built in as well. Maybe not alll, but the ones that I look at. For example. If you look at the 9-9.5 lb weight breaks for SS and GT, the index for SS is .15-.2 slower than GT.

I think the same consideration for combining stick and auto classes can be made. For some, but not all classes. In my view, their are several classes like GTF-GTH,that could be combined. The hp is much higher in automatics for these classes because the indexes were too slow to begin with. Most of the good automatic stuff with Radials can run with a stickshift.

I know this doesn’t apply to all combos but if NHRA wanted more heads up races, they could do this with at least some classes.
The stick vs. auto heads up races would be interesting too.
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Old 10-26-2020, 11:18 PM   #2
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The stick vs. auto heads up races would be interesting too.
Let's see .SS/L , 11.25..SS/LA , 11.45

Mmm-mmm,...Sure.
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Old 10-27-2020, 06:43 AM   #3
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Let's see .SS/L , 11.25..SS/LA , 11.45

Mmm-mmm,...Sure.
Maybe not a powerglide 283 but oh wait a minute, they don’t have to run powerglides anymore.

And of course, this SSLA could hold its own with any SSL car

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r=100#indextop

I know it isn’t perfect for all classes, but the stick and auto is closer than ever. If the autos had the same index as the stick cars they wouldn’t have to spend most of their time slowing the car down to avoid hp.
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Old 10-27-2020, 01:47 PM   #4
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Maybe not a powerglide 283 but oh wait a minute, they don’t have to run powerglides anymore.

And of course, this SSLA could hold its own with any SSL car

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r=100#indextop

I know it isn’t perfect for all classes, but the stick and auto is closer than ever. If the autos had the same index as the stick cars they wouldn’t have to spend most of their time slowing the car down to avoid hp.
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Talking Stock here..Not S/S
I suppose , if the stick guys spend enough on the clutches and R&D, they could match the automatic 60' s ,and then run the bigger speeds, they would be okay.
I never did like the combined idea, and still don't.
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Since you are looking at the 220 HP 1966 283 in SS/LA a 13# class at 11.45 index. HP in the a Chevy II is 233. Stick HP is 237 or 52 lbs more. Now in a Chevelle , HP is 217 for the auto and 227 for the stick. A Chevelle can be 238 lbs lighter than a Chevy II with a auto and a 130 in a stick with the same index. In GT the hp is 233 auto and 230 for the stick. That is why Bick and Cassel run in GT rather than ss/k, they get to run 84 lighter. Big cars [Impalas] hp is 229 auto and 230 for a stick. Someday I would like a shot at the 9s in a Chevy II but in SS/JA 460 lbs lighter than L. Everybody stay safe and enjoy life as we know it. Tom
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