Time For A Transmission Rule Change?

[james schaechter]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Instead of diluting it that way why not just separate the stick and auto classes like they should have done in the beginning.

I think the fact that they are combined in FS is good, I would argue that are many in SS and stock that also should be combined. I
It would increase the heads up runs slightly.
The good automatics are as quick as the stickshifts in most cases and some are quicker.

[6130]

An existing transmission rule that appears to not be being enforced, is the rule stating that you have to use the clutch to change gears, and specifically banning clutchless gearboxes. I'm not gonna point fingers, but I'm seeing a lot of in-car videos of stockers clearly showing gearchanges made without touching the clutch.

[joe collins]

Originally Posted by 6130

An existing transmission rule that appears to not be being enforced, is the rule stating that you have to use the clutch to change gears, and specifically banning clutchless gearboxes. I'm not gonna point fingers, but I'm seeing a lot of in-car videos of stockers clearly showing gearchanges made without touching the clutch.

you pull it hard enough don't need to use the clutch

[Chris1529]

Originally Posted by 6130

An existing transmission rule that appears to not be being enforced, is the rule stating that you have to use the clutch to change gears, and specifically banning clutchless gearboxes. I'm not gonna point fingers, but I'm seeing a lot of in-car videos of stockers clearly showing gearchanges made without touching the clutch.

I have a 2004 Dodge 2500 diesel and an 83 Mustang GT with a T-5 that I can shift without the clutch, neither at WOT, but I'm pretty sure just about any aftermarket stick shift can be shifted w/o clutch.

[6130]

Originally Posted by Chris1529

I have a 2004 Dodge 2500 diesel and an 83 Mustang GT with a T-5 that I can shift without the clutch, neither at WOT, but I'm pretty sure just about any aftermarket stick shift can be shifted w/o clutch.

The rule defines how the transmission is to be used, regardless of what it is capable of.

[Andys dad]

Originally Posted by james schaechter

I think the fact that they are combined in FS is good, I would argue that are many in SS and stock that also should be combined. I
It would increase the heads up runs slightly.
The good automatics are as quick as the stickshifts in most cases and some are quicker.

No in high gear ..


Ron

[james schaechter]

Originally Posted by Andys dad

No in high gear ..


Ron

Ron, a stick car could and probably will be faster in high gear,not quicker. Remember that we race the entire track and part of that track is the beginning of tthe track.

Good automatic cars will own the front half of the track vs a similar car with a stick in many classes.

I am not saying they all would work, but there are many that do.

I can’t imagine an automatic FS Car Being afraid of a stick car unless they beat their hp to death already compared to the same car with a stick.

[Bill Bogues]

I think that the way automatic and manual transmissions are ran today that they should just go ahead and put them all in one class. ....... or either go back to the way it used to be: what ever came from factory is what should be used.

[Rory McNeil]

Personally, I think the modern "factory" PURPOSE BUILT race cars have made enough of a mockery of Stock Eliminator rules already, without kicking the door wide open to even more liberal allowances of non OE components.

[jmantle]

Originally Posted by Rory McNeil

Personally, I think the modern "factory" PURPOSE BUILT race cars have made enough of a mockery of Stock Eliminator rules already, without kicking the door wide open to even more liberal allowances of non OE components.

Not only have they made a mockery of it but they don't put most of the stock builds in the guide anymore.

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632