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[Mike Gray]

Should have my new stocker together in a few months after it's back from paint. I researched ignition systems to used and asked others for advice. I got back "get a grid" from more than one so I did some checking. From my experience running .90 classes and knowing the value of consistency there is no way I'm going to use one. There are enough places to "tune" on a car and screw up the next run than to go into a laptop a make a myriad of changes with a key stroke. I'm already old and computer challenged, I would mess up the car in no time! LOL

[Mark Yacavone]

Let's see if we can reign this thread in, before it spins out of control, okay?

Let's say we have, oh I don't know, a factory experimental Stocker that runs 9.30's
Assuming he or she can leave the line at zero timing or 30% throttle with NO wheelspin,
can a pre-programmed run be installed into the EFI operating system , whether it be a Grid or an original computer, that will duplicate an earlier run?

Non scientific poll here:

YES____ NO_____ I DON'T KNOW _____ I DON'T CARE_____

[B Parker]

Originally Posted by Mike Gray

Should have my new stocker together in a few months after it's back from paint. I researched ignition systems to used and asked others for advice. I got back "get a grid" from more than one so I did some checking. From my experience running .90 classes and knowing the value of consistency there is no way I'm going to use one. There are enough places to "tune" on a car and screw up the next run than to go into a laptop a make a myriad of changes with a key stroke. I'm already old and computer challenged, I would mess up the car in no time! LOL

Mike it's really pretty simple to use. Once you set a few things up in it your not going into it every run. BP

[ausby]

you have to use the ARC module for the grid to have any advantage. other than that theres nothing in there that i would consider cheating.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by B Parker

As far as I know NHRA Tec department does not have a qualified expert in the field of electronics. BP

Barry,
NHRA does have two highly experienced and knowledgeable electronic/software engineers in the technical department as managers: Glen Gray and Tim White

I believe they need to spend as much time with the Sportsman classes as they do with the Pro classes.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by ausby

you have to use the ARC module for the grid to have any advantage. other than that theres nothing in there that i would consider cheating.

Had to look that one up..For the rest of the uninformed like me,...here it is.

https://www.holley.com/products/igni...ies/parts/7761

[Mike Gray]

Originally Posted by B Parker

Mike it's really pretty simple to use. Once you set a few things up in it your not going into it every run. BP

Temptation to make changes LOL
Wouldn’t timing based on engine rpm and gear or a launch rpm limiter help with wheel spin. Sounds like it could be used for a form of traction control?
I DON’T KNOW _ X

Features:
USB connection for ease of programming
Timing based on engine rpm and gear value
Advanced individual cylinder timing based on gear or time
Five retard stages for nitrous
Four steps of rpm limits for burnout, spool, launch and overrev
Output switch set on rpm, pressure or time
Shift light settings for each gear
Ignition data acquisition accepts multiple runs
Crank Trigger system highly recommended

[B Parker]

Originally Posted by Mike Gray

Temptation to make changes LOL
Wouldn’t timing based on engine rpm and gear or a launch rpm limiter help with wheel spin. Sounds like it could be used for a form of traction control?
I DON’T KNOW _ X

Features:
USB connection for ease of programming
Timing based on engine rpm and gear value
Advanced individual cylinder timing based on gear or time
Five retard stages for nitrous
Four steps of rpm limits for burnout, spool, launch and overrev
Output switch set on rpm, pressure or time
Shift light settings for each gear
Ignition data acquisition accepts multiple runs
Crank Trigger system highly recommended

Mike you can already add rpm timing controls and rpm activated switches to almost any MSD box out there. You don't still use points? But even back in those days we played with timing with dual points. This is not something new. If your not you are missing out on some ET.

I'm trying to figure out how to control fuel with a Holley like you can with a EFI car as you make a run. And I believe I have a way to do it. Have not tried it yet. BP

[Doug Hoven]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Had to look that one up..For the rest of the uninformed like me,...here it is.

https://www.holley.com/products/igni...ies/parts/7761

If you look in the “approved products” list, the part number for that add on box is specifically prohibited. So unless people are using them and just hiding them somewhere in the car, there’s nothing the Grid can do alone in a carbureted car if you’re trying to achieve what that box can do. EFI on the other hand, you don’t need a grid for “traction control” depending on who’s ecu you are running.

[Bob Bender]

It's a very easy fix Ban them in Stock !!!!
Let's all run a 6AL like me !!!!