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Old 10-18-2022, 07:21 PM   #1
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Jamie2370,

I'm always willing to learn new things, but I can't find where it's a disqualification for a racer to be pushed off the track by NHRA.
Would you mind sharing where in the rule book you found those rules for disqualification.

Thanks in advance.
Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
5049 Michael Chitty 1 Jimmy Lewis
E1 0.008 6.706 206.37 ****WINNER**** 0.012 64.999 NS
TS Dial: 6.72 (+/-): -0.014 TS Dial: 6.24 (+/-): 58.759
Qualified: #21 6.729 205.60 #5 6.247 226.42

Jimmy went on to win the the event after being pushed off the track by NHRA first round in Dallas
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Old 10-18-2022, 09:30 PM   #2
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Old 10-19-2022, 09:53 AM   #3
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Larry Hill, that is what I have always been told but lets be honest, how many times does this happen. AFTER the finish line it is ok, there are no infractions after the finish line. You can hit the wall, go off end of track, cross line, etc. I am sure this is at the Director's discretion.

If we look at this from another view, James Perrone is correct in that it should have been a rerun due to BOTH lanes incorrect. In that instance a rerun would declare Troy the winner as Casey was broke and could not make the call. Plain and simple.

I personally don't care who is in the other lane. I have to do my job, he or she has to do theirs.

I feel the correct call was made. With that, I do not have a dog in the fight nor do I even have a "class" car anymore. Probably never will again.
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Larry Hill, that is what I have always been told but lets be honest, how many times does this happen. AFTER the finish line it is ok, there are no infractions after the finish line. You can hit the wall, go off end of track, cross line, etc. I am sure this is at the Director's discretion.
When Chip wrecked my COPO after the finish line at Rockingham the decision was made to take his points for the whole race. That one incident cost him what would have been a top ten finish in Division 2.
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The race should have been re run end of story !


As for the rule book being enforced lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol!!!!!!
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Old 10-19-2022, 12:04 PM   #6
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The race should have been re run end of story !

BINGO!!! Which would result in Troy being the winner on a broke bye

As for the rule book being enforced lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol!!!!!!

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Old 10-19-2022, 12:14 PM   #7
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Not according to the rules!
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Old 10-19-2022, 05:27 PM   #8
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The race should have been re run end of story !

BINGO!!! Which would result in Troy being the winner on a broke bye

As for the rule book being enforced lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol!!!!!!

Reason 1 of 423,578 why I will not class race again.
Sorry but this is probably the dumbest post on this thread. First you are all for the the NHRA (DD) not enforcing the rule of the drivers being responsible for their dial, and then you won't class race ever again because the NHRA won't enforce the rules in the book! Make up your mind. Maybe if you actually raced and as Larry said, saw how fun it can be when the rules are adhered to you might understand how frustrating it can be when they are not! Jim

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When Chip wrecked my COPO after the finish line at Rockingham the decision was made to take his points for the whole race. That one incident cost him what would have been a top ten finish in Division 2.
Except that the wreck was not the infraction he was punished for. It just made it easier for them to apply the punishment for the infraction that was committed. Not apples to apples with my comment. Once again....it is ALL at the Race Director's discretion.
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Old 10-19-2022, 06:46 PM   #10
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Yes, I could have headed this thread with something other than what I did. However, I not only wanted to get everyone's attention but was hoping Troy would give his thoughts on the situation.

With that said, I would ask if anyone here is familiar with the "first or worst" violation with regards to a competition run? The first problem was both drivers not checking their dials. The second and only real violation was Troy breaking out by .5 because he failed to check his dial. Casey did nothing but fail to check his dial. The computer gave him the win. He didn't break out, cross the center line, hit the guard rail, oil down the track or anything. He broke his engine and pulled over. He did everything else as the rule book tells him to do. There is no disputing this. So I ask, what is worst, failing to check your dial or breaking out by half a second?

Some of you have made your opinions based on your feelings rather than the facts and rules we are all supposed to compete by. Everything points to both DD Savage and Troy screwing up. Casey violated no rule and the computer gave him the win. The DD decided to disregard the rules and give the win to Troy. That is a fact. Just because he gave the win to the wrong driver, for whatever reason, doesn't make it right or defensible.

1.4 FINALITY OF DECISIONS BY EVENT DIRECTOR, DESIGNEES OR OTHER EVENT OFFICIALS

Last sentence in paragraph one is worth reading.

“While the decisions, actions or inactions of Event Officials are not appealable, NHRA reserves the right to reverse such decisions or review such actions or inactions on its own initiative if it determines, in its sole and absolute judgment, that such action is warranted.”

I intend to ask NHRA to review this situation and make a decision. Jim


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