DLC coated lifters

Yo Ken · 01-03-2023, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Gray

This tread topic appears to be an add, the poster looks to be associated with the products in his suggestion. Same logos on the web site as his avatar.

ProfessorRock has permission to post there services.

novassdude · 01-04-2023, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Yo Ken

ProfessorRock has permission to post there services.

That's great but if they have a product to sell why not just come out and tell every one up front rather than the 20 questions approach.
I personally am much more likely to do business with a company that is up front about every thing.

Alan Roehrich · 01-04-2023, 09:24 PM

I only sell or use DLC when I'm also selling or using a steel cam. Most guys in Stock seem to still be using cast core camshafts, and that means no DLC.

I'm going to have to see some serious data from reliable known sources before using anything different. I don't even like DLC, any more than I like Shubeck style lifters. But DLC is "the devil I know".

ProfessorRock · 01-11-2023, 09:51 PM

Apologies for the late response. I have been sick with COVID.

My goal here is merely to help shed some light on what we have all been discussing for some time now- the choices of lifters and steel cams and how it has affected the class and even the reliability of some vital engine components.

First let me clarify my DLC Comments. I said “this may be better than DLC”. I am not arguing that DLC has been used or even may be useful in certain scenarios.
Let me explain the difference in the two products and some of my background to help bring some clarity. I can tell you these facts:

-is extremely slick-is slicker than moly and dlc
-is itself a lubricant that bonds in a thin layer .5 to 1 micron with the surface by chemically interacting on a molecular level with the substrate.

We use a proprietary technology called “Force Altered” under license from Force Altered Technologies, Inc.
DLC is indeed very hard, but it is not extremely slick. The main drawback to DLC (aside from the ridiculous cost) is if you should experience the lifter bouncing off the cam (it can and does happen) the DLC will shatter and proliferate throughout your entire engine and cause a very expensive rebuild.

The coating I am offering simply does not do this. We use a completely different process and the coating is not dipped, or uses a PDV process.. It actually bonds to the base material on a molecular level creating and new surface entirely.

Is it proven? Yes. I have record holders using it and even the US Nationals winner. We haven’t even discussed piston rings yet.

If you honestly want to know more I am happy to talk to anyone on the phone to discuss. This is just not the place to play 20 questions. I sincerely want to help and that was my reason for posting in the first place.

Coated Lifters Pic.

01-04-2023, 09:24 PM	#3
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,111 Likes: 1,570 Liked 1,814 Times in 413 Posts	Re: DLC coated lifters I only sell or use DLC when I'm also selling or using a steel cam. Most guys in Stock seem to still be using cast core camshafts, and that means no DLC. I'm going to have to see some serious data from reliable known sources before using anything different. I don't even like DLC, any more than I like Shubeck style lifters. But DLC is "the devil I know". __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

01-11-2023, 09:51 PM	#4
ProfessorRock Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: PHXarea. +Ohio Posts: 82 Likes: 27 Liked 48 Times in 24 Posts	Re: DLC coated lifters Apologies for the late response. I have been sick with COVID. My goal here is merely to help shed some light on what we have all been discussing for some time now- the choices of lifters and steel cams and how it has affected the class and even the reliability of some vital engine components. First let me clarify my DLC Comments. I said “this may be better than DLC”. I am not arguing that DLC has been used or even may be useful in certain scenarios. Let me explain the difference in the two products and some of my background to help bring some clarity. I can tell you these facts: -is extremely slick-is slicker than moly and dlc -is itself a lubricant that bonds in a thin layer .5 to 1 micron with the surface by chemically interacting on a molecular level with the substrate. We use a proprietary technology called “Force Altered” under license from Force Altered Technologies, Inc. DLC is indeed very hard, but it is not extremely slick. The main drawback to DLC (aside from the ridiculous cost) is if you should experience the lifter bouncing off the cam (it can and does happen) the DLC will shatter and proliferate throughout your entire engine and cause a very expensive rebuild. The coating I am offering simply does not do this. We use a completely different process and the coating is not dipped, or uses a PDV process.. It actually bonds to the base material on a molecular level creating and new surface entirely. Is it proven? Yes. I have record holders using it and even the US Nationals winner. We haven’t even discussed piston rings yet. If you honestly want to know more I am happy to talk to anyone on the phone to discuss. This is just not the place to play 20 questions. I sincerely want to help and that was my reason for posting in the first place. Coated Lifters Pic. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Rocketmancoatings