Why are Opens random pairings?

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by rboyle

I knew how it was done I just thought it was dumb. If it's a time saver it only saves time rd1. The confusion of trying to find a ladder after rd1 is mind boggling. It's just such a dumb excuse for a performance based class. Try explaining it to a novice fan that has a fledgling interest in following class racing. It was a lazy way to do it and is just wrong

You do understand that if it is a 32/64/128 car field. That 1st round will have as many pairs race as all of the other round together will have pairs race.



Stan

[rboyle]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

You do understand that if it is a 32/64/128 car field. That 1st round will have as many pairs race as all of the other round together will have pairs race.



Stan

I understand all of that. Believe me, I'm not as novice as you may think. Designated pairs also is supposed to save time. How much actual time does it really save? Most of us know who we have Rd1 and also know or have heard if our opponent had left or hurt his car.
Defending it because it's how it's been done for however long is just The Emperors New Clothes mentality. They don't do it in some other divisions. The rules change often but for some reason this "house rule" is not changing. I have little interest in opens because of this rule and how it conflicts with being able to run as fast as you can without penalty

[Stan Weiss]

Isn't the run as fast as you can without penalty really more about qualifying?

If 1st round pairs was base off of a "Q" ladder just how much faster could you run in 1st round than random pairing?

Stan

[Dirk Olson]

D5 to my memory has always been laddered. But I do have a question about index hit in opens. So does it count as far HP adds. With the new system it is somewhat confusing and I am easily confused....lol

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

So the person with the best reaction time gets the bye, I can’t find it in the rules. And the and the next bye goes to fastest under index of the first rounds winners. So round one the bye run racer can’t red light or brake out and he is furthest under the index. Two bye runs before anyone else is considered.
This happened at a race at Bowling Green. Everybody got cheated by the race director. Reaction time plays a big part in our sport, but not for setting up the ladder.

Larry, every division director has his own way of operating first round at National Opens. I recall the race at BG. Quite a surprise that a racer who I admire and respect tremendously received a bye run first and second round. REMEMBER, everything is at the discretion of the division director..

[Ron Ortiz]

Event: Throughout this Rulebook, there is reference to “event” or “events.” Wherever this term is used, it is intended to refer to two types of drag racing activities: (1) NHRA events, which are those events that NHRA conducts. These include but are not limited to events such as NHRA Camping World Drag Racing Series events, NHRA Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series events, National Opens, and the like; and (2) drag racing events conducted at NHRA member tracks which NHRA does not conduct but that are conducted in accordance with NHRA Rules.

[Larry Hill]

Thanks Ron. If it’s an Open it should follow the same Rules, and not the whim of someone else.

[MikeMoller]

back in the 60's early 70's it was random pairings almost everywhere.

[Model T]

Originally Posted by Brett C

We ran the D2 National Open in Reynolds, GA yesterday and all classes except .90 classes were qualified and then laddered.

Last time we ran at Reynolds, yep, they were on a ladder. However, when we got to Rockingham, with about 80 Stock entries, drum roll, no ladder. Just random pairs with no heads up. Laziness?