IHRA FWD Weight Breaks - Page 2

Daran Summerton · 07-15-2008, 01:59 PM

Correction 403 has to be a 1978 or newer. I'll have to see if I can locate one for under $500 so I can run like -2.00 under and drive it in through the mufflers in AF/S.

Jim Wahl · 07-15-2008, 02:13 PM

Go for it Daran! Jim

Jim Wahl · 07-15-2008, 02:25 PM

Hahahahahahaha! Daran you have been "owned" as the younger generation would say. Jim

Daran Summerton · 07-15-2008, 03:42 PM

I never claimed to be a genius but K/SA is 13 lbs. at 12.95 index. AF/S is 13 lbs. at 14.15 index. Is that front transaxle going to slow it down 1.20???? Doubt it. But then who wants one?

Jim Wahl · 07-15-2008, 04:15 PM

Ha! It ain't that easy big guy. Trust me on this one.
Jim

Billy Nees · 07-15-2008, 06:06 PM

Hi Mark, incase you've forgotten, 1985 Pontiac Sunbird Turbo. Original engine, trans, converter AND final drive ratio went 14.03 on 14.95 B/FS index in 1985. I haven't raced the car since. The only things that I changed were a fresh head gasket, a fresh turbo (the right one) and 20 X 8 M/Ts. In fact, it DID win class at Indy on a solo run.

Jim Wahl · 07-15-2008, 07:14 PM

Billy, are you sure you are talking about that happening in 1985? Jim

Ken Haase · 07-15-2008, 07:35 PM

Daran, I had an '81 diesel Toro converted to a gas 350 and if I remember correctly, there's so little room to the rear of the engine bay, the headers would have to look like some old 'Can-Am' stuff. I suppose you could do fenderwell type, or maybe through the hood like a 'puller'. Smiley face here.

Billy, the new car prep guy at the dealership I worked at in the early '80's came back from checking out one of those Sunbirds and said to me "man, you gotta take this thing for a drive, it's FAST!'. I said, "yeah, right." "I'm serious man, it'll impress ya". I grabbed the keys and tossed the dealer plate up on the dash. (this was a stick car) Got it rolling, shifted into second gear and 'up on the turbo' and nailed it. I hope nobody was watching as I ducked that license plate as it went whistling by! Thing almost took my head off on it's way to the rear package tray! Oh yeah, I WAS impressed that a 1.8L could pull that hard. Fun stuff.

Billy Nees · 07-15-2008, 07:37 PM

Oops, that would have been 2005!

Jim Wahl · 07-15-2008, 08:13 PM

OK, That's better. I remember when that happened and I know I can't remember all the way back to 1985! Jim

07-15-2008, 01:59 PM	#11
Daran Summerton Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas nv Posts: 600 Likes: 18 Liked 66 Times in 37 Posts	Re: IHRA FWD Weight Breaks Correction 403 has to be a 1978 or newer. I'll have to see if I can locate one for under $500 so I can run like -2.00 under and drive it in through the mufflers in AF/S.

07-15-2008, 02:13 PM	#12
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 667 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: IHRA FWD Weight Breaks Go for it Daran! Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

07-15-2008, 02:25 PM	#13
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 667 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: IHRA FWD Weight Breaks Hahahahahahaha! Daran you have been "owned" as the younger generation would say. Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

07-15-2008, 03:42 PM	#14
Daran Summerton Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas nv Posts: 600 Likes: 18 Liked 66 Times in 37 Posts	Re: IHRA FWD Weight Breaks I never claimed to be a genius but K/SA is 13 lbs. at 12.95 index. AF/S is 13 lbs. at 14.15 index. Is that front transaxle going to slow it down 1.20???? Doubt it. But then who wants one?

07-15-2008, 04:15 PM	#15
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 667 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: IHRA FWD Weight Breaks Ha! It ain't that easy big guy. Trust me on this one. Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

07-15-2008, 06:06 PM	#16
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,495 Likes: 3,600 Liked 7,740 Times in 1,740 Posts	Re: IHRA FWD Weight Breaks Hi Mark, incase you've forgotten, 1985 Pontiac Sunbird Turbo. Original engine, trans, converter AND final drive ratio went 14.03 on 14.95 B/FS index in 1985. I haven't raced the car since. The only things that I changed were a fresh head gasket, a fresh turbo (the right one) and 20 X 8 M/Ts. In fact, it DID win class at Indy on a solo run. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

07-15-2008, 07:14 PM	#17
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 667 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: IHRA FWD Weight Breaks Billy, are you sure you are talking about that happening in 1985? Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

07-15-2008, 07:35 PM	#18
Ken Haase Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 233 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: IHRA FWD Weight Breaks Daran, I had an '81 diesel Toro converted to a gas 350 and if I remember correctly, there's so little room to the rear of the engine bay, the headers would have to look like some old 'Can-Am' stuff. I suppose you could do fenderwell type, or maybe through the hood like a 'puller'. Smiley face here. Billy, the new car prep guy at the dealership I worked at in the early '80's came back from checking out one of those Sunbirds and said to me "man, you gotta take this thing for a drive, it's FAST!'. I said, "yeah, right." "I'm serious man, it'll impress ya". I grabbed the keys and tossed the dealer plate up on the dash. (this was a stick car) Got it rolling, shifted into second gear and 'up on the turbo' and nailed it. I hope nobody was watching as I ducked that license plate as it went whistling by! Thing almost took my head off on it's way to the rear package tray! Oh yeah, I WAS impressed that a 1.8L could pull that hard. Fun stuff.

07-15-2008, 07:37 PM	#19
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,495 Likes: 3,600 Liked 7,740 Times in 1,740 Posts	Re: IHRA FWD Weight Breaks Oops, that would have been 2005! __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

07-15-2008, 08:13 PM	#20
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 667 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: IHRA FWD Weight Breaks OK, That's better. I remember when that happened and I know I can't remember all the way back to 1985! Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.