Wes Libby

[Bill Hawk]

Larry and Chuck, dont get me wrong i was not bad mouthing Wes LIbby as i dont know him, im sure hes a respectable indivual and a good racer. I was just asking if this really happened, and if so wondering how it could be allowed to happen.

[Chuck Norton]

Bill,

That's my question exactly!

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[Bill Edgeworth]

First off I think Wes is a real Stand Up guy. But just to put a spin on this let me tell you what Jonathan Adams told me when I squawked about not getting weighed at Division 6 National Opens; “If anyone cheats on weight, if they go 1.4 under they will get horsepower” So not to go off topic but I think most people would agree we should not get horsepower unless we weigh, fuel check AND tear down and everyone feels that is only fair to protect the interests of other people running the same combo. But Jonathans comments were more towards a self policing situation, no matter what the reason for running fast your combo will be penalized, it’s your own responsibility to make sure you are legal in all ways before the run.
So, if this really happened would there have been a huge stink over it and some horsepower thrown at the 440? Or would the qualifying run just be tossed? Both?

[Rory McNeil]

Can`t you still set NHRA National records at an Open? How the hell would that be considered "proper" without weight, fuel check and a tear down??

[Bill Edgeworth]

Rory,

Good question, you were there this weekend how many NHRA guys did you count?
Maybe 3? Maybe the rest of the crew was in Sonoma. I think they expect advanced warning of any record attempts at the National Opens,

[Frank Bialas]

Originally Posted by Bill Edgeworth

First off I think Wes is a real Stand Up guy. But just to put a spin on this let me tell you what Jonathan Adams told me when I squawked about not getting weighed at Division 6 National Opens; “If anyone cheats on weight, if they go 1.4 under they will get horsepower” So not to go off topic but I think most people would agree we should not get horsepower unless we weigh, fuel check AND tear down and everyone feels that is only fair to protect the interests of other people running the same combo. But Jonathans comments were more towards a self policing situation, no matter what the reason for running fast your combo will be penalized, it’s your own responsibility to make sure you are legal in all ways before the run.
So, if this really happened would there have been a huge stink over it and some horsepower thrown at the 440? Or would the qualifying run just be tossed? Both?

Hey Bill PLEASE be careful throwing more HP @ the 440 because the B-body can't take another hit, we are now @ 417 and wes's combo E-body is still @ 405 so a little bit wouldn't hurt his package as it would totally factor out the BIG MOPES !!!

[Chuck Norton]

Bill, in response to your question about what difference the run would have made, to the best of my understanding of the AHFS, nothing would have resulted directly from a run of -1.19. It would simply have been the first trigger run toward a review of that combination next winter, after the end of the season. Perhaps someone with a clearer vision of the system would be able to put the possibilities in perspective.

Risking disqualification and/or other sanctions in an effort to avoid setting the first trigger for a possible review would seem to be a bold move.

Frank, your concern is certainly a valid one. Carrying 12 additional horsepower in a bigger, longer car is certainly a big load. Funny how the system seems to work that way.

There would appear to be many unclear issues at play in this situation.

[bsa633]

Frank.. put a Hemi in it...or 440-4 or even a 383..or a stick..what the hell..even SS/GA start to look good dont it?Atleast you have some choises..think about those that have whole combinations "destroyed"! AHFS sucks BIG WAY...the way it works now!

[Bruce Noland]

This is a curious episode.

A few years ago I absent-mindedly attempted to pass the scales after winning a round at the Gators. I'll never forget Bruce semi-trotting from the scales area. He was waving his finger and shaking his head at me. I quickly hit the brakes and backed up and then pulled onto the scales. Bruce was kind with his words but I knew it could never happen again or I was going home. Now, I'm looking for the scales!

[Frank Bialas]

Originally Posted by bsa633

Frank.. put a Hemi in it...or 440-4 or even a 383..or a stick..what the hell..even SS/GA start to look good dont it?Atleast you have some choises..think about those that have whole combinations "destroyed"! AHFS sucks BIG WAY...the way it works now!

CAN'T find the bag, the one with the money in it for that new combo, and as far as the hemi combination goes, I haven't seen it yet but I understand that HENSEN has put together a GTX which will be INTERESTING-[understatement].Looking at E-body still looks like the better choice.