Wes Libby - Page 3

Rory McNeil · 07-28-2008, 08:16 PM

Can`t you still set NHRA National records at an Open? How the hell would that be considered "proper" without weight, fuel check and a tear down??

Bill Edgeworth · 07-28-2008, 10:51 PM

Rory,

Good question, you were there this weekend how many NHRA guys did you count?
Maybe 3? Maybe the rest of the crew was in Sonoma. I think they expect advanced warning of any record attempts at the National Opens,

Frank Bialas · 07-29-2008, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Edgeworth

First off I think Wes is a real Stand Up guy. But just to put a spin on this let me tell you what Jonathan Adams told me when I squawked about not getting weighed at Division 6 National Opens; “If anyone cheats on weight, if they go 1.4 under they will get horsepower” So not to go off topic but I think most people would agree we should not get horsepower unless we weigh, fuel check AND tear down and everyone feels that is only fair to protect the interests of other people running the same combo. But Jonathans comments were more towards a self policing situation, no matter what the reason for running fast your combo will be penalized, it’s your own responsibility to make sure you are legal in all ways before the run.
So, if this really happened would there have been a huge stink over it and some horsepower thrown at the 440? Or would the qualifying run just be tossed? Both?

Hey Bill PLEASE be careful throwing more HP @ the 440 because the B-body can't take another hit, we are now @ 417 and wes's combo E-body is still @ 405 so a little bit wouldn't hurt his package as it would totally factor out the BIG MOPES !!!

Chuck Norton · 07-29-2008, 09:25 PM

Bill, in response to your question about what difference the run would have made, to the best of my understanding of the AHFS, nothing would have resulted directly from a run of -1.19. It would simply have been the first trigger run toward a review of that combination next winter, after the end of the season. Perhaps someone with a clearer vision of the system would be able to put the possibilities in perspective.

Risking disqualification and/or other sanctions in an effort to avoid setting the first trigger for a possible review would seem to be a bold move.

Frank, your concern is certainly a valid one. Carrying 12 additional horsepower in a bigger, longer car is certainly a big load. Funny how the system seems to work that way.

There would appear to be many unclear issues at play in this situation.

bsa633 · 07-30-2008, 03:23 AM

Frank.. put a Hemi in it...or 440-4 or even a 383..or a stick..what the hell..even SS/GA start to look good dont it?Atleast you have some choises..think about those that have whole combinations "destroyed"! AHFS sucks BIG WAY...the way it works now!

Bruce Noland · 07-30-2008, 02:34 PM

This is a curious episode.

A few years ago I absent-mindedly attempted to pass the scales after winning a round at the Gators. I'll never forget Bruce semi-trotting from the scales area. He was waving his finger and shaking his head at me. I quickly hit the brakes and backed up and then pulled onto the scales. Bruce was kind with his words but I knew it could never happen again or I was going home. Now, I'm looking for the scales!

Frank Bialas · 08-01-2008, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bsa633

Frank.. put a Hemi in it...or 440-4 or even a 383..or a stick..what the hell..even SS/GA start to look good dont it?Atleast you have some choises..think about those that have whole combinations "destroyed"! AHFS sucks BIG WAY...the way it works now!

CAN'T find the bag, the one with the money in it for that new combo, and as far as the hemi combination goes, I haven't seen it yet but I understand that HENSEN has put together a GTX which will be INTERESTING-[understatement].Looking at E-body still looks like the better choice.

Paul Dilcher · 08-01-2008, 12:42 PM

FRANK , did someone leave you holding the empty bag ?????? lol

Frank Bialas · 08-01-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Dilcher

FRANK , did someone leave you holding the empty bag ?????? lol

Hey Paul someone told me that you got the bag and I really need it back!!!! How you been Paul hope that all is well, Another thing don't forget you still owe me that toll MONEY !!!LOL , you know I haven't raced the blue beast in year and 1/2 finally get-er done and get SPANKED by AHFS with 6 big ones, thought that maybe the 396 was gonna get and left us alone so that maybe we would have a chance to catch up, BUT THAT DIDN't HAPPEN!

Paul Dilcher · 08-01-2008, 01:46 PM

Frank , You will not get any sympathy from me. I have got 23 h.p. since they started holding court. All it does is cost you more money.

07-28-2008, 08:16 PM	#21
Rory McNeil VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: from Vancouver BC Canada, now in Nova Scotia Posts: 1,311 Likes: 316 Liked 1,103 Times in 301 Posts	Re: Wes Libby Can`t you still set NHRA National records at an Open? How the hell would that be considered "proper" without weight, fuel check and a tear down?? __________________ NHRA 6390 STK M/S 85 Mustang

07-28-2008, 10:51 PM	#22
Bill Edgeworth Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 258 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Wes Libby Rory, Good question, you were there this weekend how many NHRA guys did you count? Maybe 3? Maybe the rest of the crew was in Sonoma. I think they expect advanced warning of any record attempts at the National Opens, __________________ Bill Edgeworth 6471 STK

07-29-2008, 09:25 PM	#24
Chuck Norton Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 474 Likes: 106 Liked 89 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Wes Libby Bill, in response to your question about what difference the run would have made, to the best of my understanding of the AHFS, nothing would have resulted directly from a run of -1.19. It would simply have been the first trigger run toward a review of that combination next winter, after the end of the season. Perhaps someone with a clearer vision of the system would be able to put the possibilities in perspective. Risking disqualification and/or other sanctions in an effort to avoid setting the first trigger for a possible review would seem to be a bold move. Frank, your concern is certainly a valid one. Carrying 12 additional horsepower in a bigger, longer car is certainly a big load. Funny how the system seems to work that way. There would appear to be many unclear issues at play in this situation.

07-30-2008, 03:23 AM	#25
bsa633 Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 310 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Wes Libby Frank.. put a Hemi in it...or 440-4 or even a 383..or a stick..what the hell..even SS/GA start to look good dont it?Atleast you have some choises..think about those that have whole combinations "destroyed"! AHFS sucks BIG WAY...the way it works now!

07-30-2008, 02:34 PM	#26
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Wes Libby This is a curious episode. A few years ago I absent-mindedly attempted to pass the scales after winning a round at the Gators. I'll never forget Bruce semi-trotting from the scales area. He was waving his finger and shaking his head at me. I quickly hit the brakes and backed up and then pulled onto the scales. Bruce was kind with his words but I knew it could never happen again or I was going home. Now, I'm looking for the scales! __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

08-01-2008, 12:42 PM	#28
Paul Dilcher Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: brockport newyork Posts: 97 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Wes Libby FRANK , did someone leave you holding the empty bag ?????? lol __________________ Paul Dilcher 1037 STK

08-01-2008, 01:46 PM	#30
Paul Dilcher Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: brockport newyork Posts: 97 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Wes Libby Frank , You will not get any sympathy from me. I have got 23 h.p. since they started holding court. All it does is cost you more money. __________________ Paul Dilcher 1037 STK