EPA-Its not over yet

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

Considering that an entire season of NHRA drag racing does not put as much pollutants into the air as one of Mr. Obama's vacation trips, it is easy to see who they are concerned about.

Kenny asked us to stay out if the political stuff, but I guess you can't help yourself!

[Jerry Terry]

Sent , we need to keep it at the forefront !!!!

[Kenny Bomar]

Done thanks mike

[Dwight Southerland]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Kenny asked us to stay out if the political stuff, but I guess you can't help yourself!

I didn't know that was a political statement; I was just stating facts.

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

I didn't know that was a political statement; I was just stating facts.

Can you please provide the facts - with links? And not more of your imaginary political gibberish.

[Adger Smith]

I don't know about Dwight's statement of Trips vs Drag racing, but there is plenty of links about the trips and their carbon footprint impact as well as their cost to the tax payer.
just a real quick search of : Obama's jet trips vs pollution
The following 4 are just quick copy and past of a pretty good list.
OH, it's on the internet so it has to be the truth and factual.
Using a little thought and looking at some of the data "Out There" I would have to say what Dwight said is plausible.
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/was...00-gallon-trip

http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/22/ob...th-day-flight/

http://redgreenandblue.org/2009/04/1...nt-41000-tons/

http://freebeacon.com/issues/obama-e...does-annually/

This may not be Myth busters, but..... There is one thing I will say and back it up with a link: The EPA is on the wrong track with the ruling about converting cars to race cars and pollution.. Racing causes way less pollution than the aircraft industry.
http://www.yaleclimateconnections.or...ng-vs-driving/

[impstocker]

Sorry about the "non-political" stuff, but I can understand it. Should I delete this part of my post?

MY REPLY

Thank you for your reply. I just see it as another over reach of the Federal Goverment and over regulation. The EPA needs to go.

Maybe Mr trump can win NY State this time.

William Lamprecht

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by Adger Smith

I don't know about Dwight's statement of Trips vs Drag racing, but there is plenty of links about the trips and their carbon footprint impact as well as their cost to the tax payer.
just a real quick search of : Obama's jet trips vs pollution
The following 4 are just quick copy and past of a pretty good list.
OH, it's on the internet so it has to be the truth and factual.
Using a little thought and looking at some of the data "Out There" I would have to say what Dwight said is plausible.
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/was...00-gallon-trip

http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/22/ob...th-day-flight/

http://redgreenandblue.org/2009/04/1...nt-41000-tons/

http://freebeacon.com/issues/obama-e...does-annually/

This may not be Myth busters, but..... There is one thing I will say and back it up with a link: The EPA is on the wrong track with the ruling about converting cars to race cars and pollution.. Racing causes way less pollution than the aircraft industry.
http://www.yaleclimateconnections.or...ng-vs-driving/

All three are hard right wing sources and according to you with "plausible" information which is far from fact. And nobody knows how many tons of pollutants are released each year because of drag racing. This vacation dig is just another cheap shot by a guy who is sitting around waiting for his check each month.

[Dwight Southerland]

Based on gallons of fuel consumed. Some of the NHRA race data is a bit of an estimate since the access to accurate information is not available. But enough is available to make a reasonable estimate and it is not anywhere close to the amount of fuel consumed by the three jets in the presidential entourage that goes to Hawaii each year.


So, Bruce, "hard right wing" sources presumes inaccurate information? Only "hard left wing" sources count? Or is there truly unbiased information available? Care to point them out?


"This vacation dig is just another cheap shot by a guy who is sitting around waiting for his check each month." Totally uncalled for, Brucey. First of all, it was not a dig, but a statement of fact for a perspective that is worthy of consideration. Secondly, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO I AM OR WHAT I DO, so your little cheap shot is not accurate and if it is reflection of your character, then it is a building block for a less than admirable reputation. Nobody has presented false and cheap ad hominem attacks against you, so what's your beef that you feel the need to be so tacky?

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

Based on gallons of fuel consumed. Some of the NHRA race data is a bit of an estimate since the access to accurate information is not available. But enough is available to make a reasonable estimate and it is not anywhere close to the amount of fuel consumed by the three jets in the presidential entourage that goes to Hawaii each year.


So, Bruce, "hard right wing" sources presumes inaccurate information? Only "hard left wing" sources count? Or is there truly unbiased information available? Care to point them out?


"This vacation dig is just another cheap shot by a guy who is sitting around waiting for his check each month." Totally uncalled for, Brucey. First of all, it was not a dig, but a statement of fact for a perspective that is worthy of consideration. Secondly, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO I AM OR WHAT I DO, so your little cheap shot is not accurate and if it is reflection of your character, then it is a building block for a less than admirable reputation. Nobody has presented false and cheap ad hominem attacks against you, so what's your beef that you feel the need to be so tacky?

Guesstimates are not facts there hot shot. And have no basis in reality. Go get some really straight numbers. But, since we are not talking politics, let's use Bush's 80 trips to his ranch during his presidency. Let me know when you get something solid that we can chew on. Remember this is your baby - so back it up.