Billet cams and lifter supply

[B Parker]

Bubski As for the most enhanced combo on record the L78

If you think that the L 78 is the most gifted engine combo you need to go back to looking in the guide. There are a lot of combo's that are far better off than this one. Years ago I watched someone pull an aluminum driveshaft out of a 67 Mustang. Said it was listed as an option on the car. Who was building aluminum driveshafts back then? But if you think it's that easy with the L78 combo come on in the water is fine. You won't need acid for the heads. I'm sure with all your knowledge you would move to the front of the line.

What happens if the tire manufactures decide to stop making 9 inch slicks. They did away with the 7's years ago. And let's face it not many measure 9 anyway. Are you guys going to say nope sorry you should have seen this coming. And had extra sets. BP

[B Parker]

Originally Posted by GUMP

Anyone want to take a bet on the next thing being that 9" tires are no longer safe....

Gump talk about cars that should have been in Super Stock you have a few of them. Lets hear about your engine spec's and what you use for a rear and trany. How about the suspension. Don't get me wrong I like the new cars in Stock but anyone that uses the excuse that adding roller lifters is gong to make the older cars more like a Super Stocker is a joke with what is being run in Stock today. It's really just going to put the lifters more inline with a lot of the other combo's that are running Stock. But that is not why this needs to be looked at. The good lifters that will last in today's competitive class Stockers for the older car are not Available.

If they were made legal I wouldn't use them until I hurt my motor so I felt I had no choice. But we have racers that have raced a long time sitting on the sidelines waiting for lifters that may not ever be available.

NHRA has a list of superseded parts because of the (Availability). If you can't get a lifter that will last in your combo I believe this is as good as any case that they have allowed other parts in.

[nolongerracing]

I don't know what the answer is, but it's not a roller cam!!!

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by nolongerracing

I don't know what the answer is, but it's not a roller cam!!!

I think that we all know the "answer". Some people on here just want to change the "question"!

[jmantle]

I know Schubecks have garnered a lot of flack over the years and I've seen the damage they can do when they come apart but I've run the same set for 12 seasons and they don't look any different from the day I installed them. I do run more spring pressure than I probably have to trying to make sure they stay in contact with the cam and the cam is starting to show some signs of wear but very little.
I can't believe in this day and age someone can't come out with an "improved" ceramic lifter, especially now that we can run solids and don't need room in the body for the hydraulic plunger.
I doubt any manufacturer out there is going to make roller cams and lifters for my combo so I'll be stuck with a flat tappet setup regardless.

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632

[john ancona]

Originally Posted by jmantle

I know Schubecks have garnered a lot of flack over the years and I've seen the damage they can do when they come apart but I've run the same set for 12 seasons and they don't look any different from the day I installed them. I do run more spring pressure than I probably have to trying to make sure they stay in contact with the cam and the cam is starting to show some signs of wear but very little.
I can't believe in this day and age someone can't come out with an "improved" ceramic lifter, especially now that we can run solids and don't need room in the body for the hydraulic plunger.
I doubt any manufacturer out there is going to make roller cams and lifters for my combo so I'll be stuck with a flat tappet setup regardless.

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632

I again ask ,and I add with (no response) how many orders do the two manufactures have at this time ,also it would be interesting to know out of the about 1700 stock eliminator with NHRA numbers even need a ceramic lifter or tool steel lifters that may help answer the questions why Smith went out of business ,and no one has stepped in to make either one

[GUMP]

Lets hear about your engine spec's and what you use for a rear and trany. How about the suspension.

Both the LT motors that I am campaigning run a stock rocker, beehive valve spring, and a full travel hydraulic lifter. The pistons, rods, and cranks are what Chevrolet put in them.

All of the transmissions and some of the converters are from my LT1 F-Body days.

The rear end is the one that came in the cars. A twelve bolt would be faster. I would prefer a torque arm. I actually proposed that to GM in 2010. The accepted replacement for the independent rear in all new cars seems to be the four link. I really don't see it as being any better than anything else in stock.

[Terry Cain]

Originally Posted by SDT1DYI

John, I thought you were going with to race SS GT class with a 350 2 barrel?
How about a 5 HP penalty for Roller cam in stock?
If a change to Roller Cams is made then change the piston rings to what ever rings you want. Spacers are get expensive as well. Oh and then for low compression motors how about making pump gas legal in stock as well. Could save some money there as well. .

Steve Teeter Stk/SS 620

I like the pump gas idea.

The FSS cars run the 3060R 9” MT radials. They are the same tire stockers run. I run the Goodyear radial that few showdown cars run. Also a 9” tire. The showdown cars run wider rims that make the tires look bigger.

QUOTE=J.R. Haddad;670439]Gump, you are my hero when it comes to common sense. I think that
could be a tough argument given that the Showdown Cars runs as
quick as 7.60's. Now, their 9" tires are wider than our 9" tires, so I
could see this heading to a NHRA ruling that all F/S cars and A thru E
regular cars get to use the wider 9" tires, and all others use the regular
9" tires. Before I get attacked, this is just my guess on what could happen,
not what I want.

JR[/QUOTE]

[1347]

Originally Posted by Terry Cain

I like the pump gas idea.

I think the biggest problem would be fuel check.