Pure Stocker Thread

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz

The v6 mustangs will run high 13's bone stock. Not sure about the Challengers and Camaros.

I'm not sure either, about the other two? However, given that the 2010 Challenger had a 250hp V6 engine, and the car I believe weighs about 3600 lbs, I'm not feeling good about it being even a mid-14sec. car? I believe the Camaro is a couple of hundred pounds lighter, and has a stronger V6, so it should be closer to the Mustang?

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

I'm not sure either, about the other two? However, given that the 2010 Challenger had a 250hp V6 engine, and the car I believe weighs about 3600 lbs, I'm not feeling good about it being even a mid-14sec. car? I believe the Camaro is a couple of hundred pounds lighter, and has a stronger V6, so it should be closer to the Mustang?

Your mistaken about the car weights. Both are close to 4000 lbs.

[James L Miller]

I've seen the V6 Challengers were supposed to be 3900 pounds and some change. I've seen the V6 Chargers run 15s, so I'd say the early V6 Challengers would be low 15s stock. The newer one has more power, so they would get into the 14s I would think. I have a 2009 SE, but never ran it at the track. I looked at what sort of tires would fit the rear disc brakes. It looked like I'd have to use some DOT type sticky 17s or 18s. I don't think a 16" wheel would clear the caliper, or it would be real close.

[Dan Fahey]

Wonder if IHRA would consider calling Pure Stock - Junior Stock ?

The rules are near identical.
So were the cams.

D

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Your mistaken about the car weights. Both are close to 4000 lbs.

I got that info from the brochures about production models, that I happen to still have at home (I'll go double check what I saw and from what model years I saw it). I wish I would've seen this thread sooner so I could've replied sooner. The only other source of a comparo I'm familiar with is Car and Driver, and since they only test the top of the line in performance vehicles, they certainly didn't mess around with V6's (at least not in a comparo that I'm aware of). I will say this though, I wouldn't be surprised in the least that the Mustangs are the quickest, since I recall them being the lightest of the three....NOTE: I just went online to check out the most basic versions of the Camaro, the Challenger,and the Mustang, and here's what I found: 2012 Challenger SXT 2dr coupe...3.6L V6...5spd Auto...305hp..curb weight 3834.

2012 Camaro LS 2dr coupe...3.6L V6...6spd Auto...323hp...curb weight 3769 lbs

2012 Mustang V6 2dr coupe...3.7L V6...6spd Man...305hp...curb weight 3453 lbs

Based on this info (which the older ones I referred to show for power to weight ratio, to borrow from I believe "Alan Reinhart" (I may have mis-spelled his last name, but he's the sportsman announcer guy) who called a sportsman drag race between a Ford and a Chevy (at the '96 Fram/Autolite Nationals in Atlanta, Ga), by saying "GIVE IT TO THE FORD"!!!

Not far from 4000lbs, but not that close either....

[Jeff Kempton]

It pains me to say it, but I put my 2010 V-6 Camaro stick car on the scales last summer and with me, a full tank of gas, and an overnight bag on board it weighed 4025#. That puts it at about 3750 without the ballast, which agrees with what I just found online. The SS model is about 150 lbs. more with their bigger brakes, wheels, and added engine weight. And, I've been told that the Challenger is even heavier.

They're fun new cars but they sure aren't lightweights.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kempton

It pains me to say it, but I put my 2010 V-6 Camaro stick car on the scales last summer and with me, a full tank of gas, and an overnight bag on board it weighed 4025#. That puts it at about 3750 without the ballast, which agrees with what I just found online. The SS model is about 150 lbs. more with their bigger brakes, wheels, and added engine weight. And, I've been told that the Challenger is even heavier.

They're fun new cars but they sure aren't lightweights.

Jeff, as long as you're alive, doing well, and having fun with your Camaro, that's all that matters to me. With great people such as Woodro Josey, and too many others from this site, plus loved ones of (and also) people I know of not affiliated with our favorite sport (who are going through challenging health issues), I give thanks every day for my good life, my good health, for all that I am, and all that I have. It sounds like you have a great car that you have lots of fun with, and you're healthy enough to enjoy driving it...how's that for giving thanks for your now known good?

As for my post from above yours, I will correct myself in that my brochure on the 2010 Challenger didn't have curb weights listed in it afterall. However, what I displayed and what you confirmed with your post showed me that although the Challenger's and Camaro's (sans the factory built race versions) are not lite-weights, they are around the weights of their mid-70's pony car (including the pre-pinto based Mustang) cousins (35-3800lbs). However, even with smaller engines, they could run away and hide from their predecessors on either a drag strip, road coarse, or oval track...thanks to the extra hp they get to enjoy.

I hope and pray that you continue to live well, and be able to further enjoy your 2010 Camaro, as I also hope that everyone who reads this that has a car they love will be blessed with the good health (and life) needed to enjoy the mechanical masterpiece that's in their garages (if not at the strip or on the open road)!!!