Year End Horsepower Adjustments...

[Herbie Null]

Originally Posted by Rusty Davenport

that was my point Ed........the NHRA Super Stock LT1 horsepower rating is nowhere close to the NHRA STOCK hp rating........what is the problem ??? Super Stock horsepower should be raised to at least match NHRA STOCK rating----does that not make sense ????

Super stock vs Stock LT1.... A super stock GT/BA and a Stock S/BA have the same weight break at 8.50. What separates the two are the indexes, the super stock index is 10:25 vs the stock index at 11:25. I believe the stock LT1 HP is 345 vs the super stock HP 295 that means that the stocker is 425lbs heavier than the super stocker. Take that off the 1 second index advantage and that leaves the stocker some where around 5 1/2 tenths better than the super stocker. With all the modifications to a super stocker this makes them pretty close. Are look at it this way take 425lbs out of a LT1 stocker and rate it at 295 now run it on a 10:25 index. The HP rating does make it look funny but don't forget about the indexes.

[KRatcliff]

Originally Posted by sterling simmons jr

Rusty Super Stock guys are a lot smarter then Stockers who have the Lt1. If you run more than 1.00 under NHRA will beat you up with the ink pen. Thats why we are at 346 now.

Sorta. Running more than a 1.00 under isn't that bad a thing especially for the LT1 in stock. Running 1.20 under is a different story.

The advantage that we have for the LT1 in stock is that there are so many people that run it across many classes. Plus a lot of them go rounds in eliminations. This is huge because all those rounds are counted vs. just one for qualifying. You will see that the elimination rounds are most often the slower runs.

It is all about the averages as long as it is kept slower than the 1.20 under. Keep the average for the class and engine family below the .85 threshold then it becomes no harm no foul for the 1.00 triggers.

Sheer dumb luck and dilution is a wonderful thing.

[Rusty Davenport]

Originally Posted by sterling simmons jr

Rusty Super Stock guys are a lot smarter then Stockers who have the Lt1. If you run more than 1.00 under NHRA will beat you up with the ink pen. Thats why we are at 346 now.

Sterling......I was trying to say that without saying the stupid part......you hit it just right !!!!

[Rusty Davenport]

Originally Posted by Herbie Null

Super stock vs Stock LT1.... A super stock GT/BA and a Stock S/BA have the same weight break at 8.50. What separates the two are the indexes, the super stock index is 10:25 vs the stock index at 11:25. I believe the stock LT1 HP is 345 vs the super stock HP 295 that means that the stocker is 425lbs heavier than the super stocker. Take that off the 1 second index advantage and that leaves the stocker some where around 5 1/2 tenths better than the super stocker. With all the modifications to a super stocker this makes them pretty close. Are look at it this way take 425lbs out of a LT1 stocker and rate it at 295 now run it on a 10:25 index. The HP rating does make it look funny but don't forget about the indexes.

Herbie....did you ever consider a job in politics or litigation ???? hahahahahah

[sterling simmons jr]

Thank you Rusty and Mr. Ratcliff. Ok Lt1 guys no HP in 2013. I'm at 3455lbs. now haha

[Tony Janes]

Originally Posted by Mike Semeniuk

Maybe the 327's without 4GC's are the red headed step children . Once again the 68 327-250/265 GT combo gets no reduction. . Maybe the idea is to have older cars run SS and only slipery cars run GT.! However, the 68 327/275 stock version is now 265>
anyone got a 68 Chevelle?

The 250/265 Did not meet the requirements for horesepower reduction. Your old 68 chevelle may be somewhere in Washington state.

[KRatcliff]

Originally Posted by sterling simmons jr

Thank you Rusty and Mr. Ratcliff. Ok Lt1 guys no HP in 2013. I'm at 3455lbs. now haha

You are welcome, but that "Mr." thingy really hurts.

[Jeff Teuton]

For all you LS1 guys, according to my master computer revived from the Myan temple in Mexico, it will never get hp based on the average. Too many of yall. The 1.20 deal is something else however. I guess yall are the 'not so old' cars. Lots of them people mad at yall too. Them people.

[boostedf22c]

Maybe some of you long time class racers, or guys that understand the AHFS better can clarify something for me.

I went faster 1.00 under but slower than 1.20 under a total of 2 times last season, same event, different days.

I guess my question is, why would my index be lowered .1 because of this?

BTW, my average runs were way slower than 1.00 under.

[Jim Wahl]

Originally Posted by boostedf22c

Maybe some of you long time class racers, or guys that understand the AHFS better can clarify something for me.

I went faster 1.00 under but slower than 1.20 under a total of 2 times last season, same event, different days.

I guess my question is, why would my index be lowered .1 because of this?

BTW, my average runs were way slower than 1.00 under.

Carey, your two -1.00 under runs raised the red flag. All you need is a class average of -.85 to get HP or index change. Jim


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