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Old 12-21-2012, 11:16 AM   #1
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that was my point Ed........the NHRA Super Stock LT1 horsepower rating is nowhere close to the NHRA STOCK hp rating........what is the problem ??? Super Stock horsepower should be raised to at least match NHRA STOCK rating----does that not make sense ????
Super stock vs Stock LT1.... A super stock GT/BA and a Stock S/BA have the same weight break at 8.50. What separates the two are the indexes, the super stock index is 10:25 vs the stock index at 11:25. I believe the stock LT1 HP is 345 vs the super stock HP 295 that means that the stocker is 425lbs heavier than the super stocker. Take that off the 1 second index advantage and that leaves the stocker some where around 5 1/2 tenths better than the super stocker. With all the modifications to a super stocker this makes them pretty close. Are look at it this way take 425lbs out of a LT1 stocker and rate it at 295 now run it on a 10:25 index. The HP rating does make it look funny but don't forget about the indexes.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:21 PM   #2
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Super stock vs Stock LT1.... A super stock GT/BA and a Stock S/BA have the same weight break at 8.50. What separates the two are the indexes, the super stock index is 10:25 vs the stock index at 11:25. I believe the stock LT1 HP is 345 vs the super stock HP 295 that means that the stocker is 425lbs heavier than the super stocker. Take that off the 1 second index advantage and that leaves the stocker some where around 5 1/2 tenths better than the super stocker. With all the modifications to a super stocker this makes them pretty close. Are look at it this way take 425lbs out of a LT1 stocker and rate it at 295 now run it on a 10:25 index. The HP rating does make it look funny but don't forget about the indexes.
Herbie....did you ever consider a job in politics or litigation ???? hahahahahah
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:32 PM   #3
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Thank you Rusty and Mr. Ratcliff. Ok Lt1 guys no HP in 2013. I'm at 3455lbs. now haha
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Thank you Rusty and Mr. Ratcliff. Ok Lt1 guys no HP in 2013. I'm at 3455lbs. now haha
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:23 PM   #5
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For all you LS1 guys, according to my master computer revived from the Myan temple in Mexico, it will never get hp based on the average. Too many of yall. The 1.20 deal is something else however. I guess yall are the 'not so old' cars. Lots of them people mad at yall too. Them people.
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:59 PM   #6
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Maybe some of you long time class racers, or guys that understand the AHFS better can clarify something for me.

I went faster 1.00 under but slower than 1.20 under a total of 2 times last season, same event, different days.

I guess my question is, why would my index be lowered .1 because of this?

BTW, my average runs were way slower than 1.00 under.
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Old 12-21-2012, 04:15 PM   #7
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Maybe some of you long time class racers, or guys that understand the AHFS better can clarify something for me.

I went faster 1.00 under but slower than 1.20 under a total of 2 times last season, same event, different days.

I guess my question is, why would my index be lowered .1 because of this?

BTW, my average runs were way slower than 1.00 under.
Carey, your two -1.00 under runs raised the red flag. All you need is a class average of -.85 to get HP or index change. Jim


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Old 12-21-2012, 04:26 PM   #8
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Maybe some of you long time class racers, or guys that understand the AHFS better can clarify something for me.

I went faster 1.00 under but slower than 1.20 under a total of 2 times last season, same event, different days.

I guess my question is, why would my index be lowered .1 because of this?

BTW, my average runs were way slower than 1.00 under.
Carey, it depends what runs you did it on. For the AHFS only your quickest qualifying run counts and ALL elimination runs count towards your average. Class elimination runs that are not qualifying runs are used for "data only" whatever that means. So your overall (class) average for that review period had to be more than .85 under your index.
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